RE: dakota gibson vs. flowmaster

From: James Bird (birdjd@internetmci.com)
Date: Fri Jul 18 1997 - 11:39:57 EDT


Frank,

I was going to try to let you know when I was heading out there, but he
already seemed cautious about inviting some stranger by to see his rig.

I didn't care for the "Y" idea myself. By the time you clear the muffler,
the "Y" would be sitting on the axle.

My 3" in/dual 2.5 out Gibson is like the 3" in/out only there are two pipes
on the exit. If you hold it up and look through it, you can see all the
way through with the one in/ and two out.

James Bird BirdJD@InternetMCI.com
'97 Dakota CC, V8, 5sp, 4x4, 3.55 gears, loaded, 500w of serious sound

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Ball [SMTP:frankb@cougar.sr.hp.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 1997 11:19 PM
To: dakota@ait.fredonia.edu; Frank Ball
Subject: dakota gibson vs. flowmaster

} From: James Bird <BirdJD@internetmci.com>
} Subject: Gibson vs. Flowmaster
}
} So I stopped by Flowmaster today to hear a 2 chamber 'Delta' system on
his
} 318. It sounded sweet. The Flowmaster guy told me that I'd be really
} unhappy with the 'noise' from my bullet looking Gibson that is still in
the
} box (3" in/ dual 2.5" out). He felt his 'Delta' would be much nicer at
} 2000-3000 RPM.
}
} His second recommendations were: 3 chamber 'none delta' 3" in/ dual 2.5
} out., or a 3 chamber 3" in/Out with a 'Y' after the exit.

What is the "Delta" muffler. I know flowmaster makes 2 chamber, 3
chamber, and "big block" mufflers. How's the big block muffler
different? What's it compare to in sound? I think Flowmaster makes a
cat back kit for the RAMs using the big block muffler, so it should be
appropriate for the Dakota also. I remember my little 1.6 liter Datsun
got pretty loud when I put a open element K&N air filter on it, so that
will probably be the dominant sound anyways. Like James, I'm too
confused to make a decision. So James, if I walk into the Flowmaster
factory will they be willing to talk to me? I'm sick of sales droids at
local shops who know nothing.

} I didn't care for the loudness of his 'Delta', yet he insisted the Gibson
} would be too noisy.
}
} As I carefully examine the Gibson, it's a 5" to 6" diameter with single
3"
} in, dual 2.5" out. It has no packing, but a chamber design that works
down
} the edges of the outer tube.

You have a different Gibson than anybody else on the list. Everybody
else got a 3" in 3" out. And that's what I want, Flowmaster or Gibson.
A "Y" after the muffler? Brain damage. As I said before, the left side
pipe gets way too close to the spare tire. I've seen three different
jobs by two different shops, and none of those trucks had the rear sway
bar like mine, which makes space tighter.

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