Re: IMPORTANT! (Here we grow again.)

From: Dick Campagna (campagna@nothinbut.net)
Date: Mon Sep 22 1997 - 07:26:49 EDT


I got it! Thanks for your efforts . . .

Por Favore, Non Mi Rompere i Coglioni. Grazie!

Dick C.

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> From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
> To: dakota@ait.fredonia.edu
> Subject: IMPORTANT! (Here we grow again.)
> Date: Monday, September 22, 1997 12:16 AM
>
>
> Those of you who have been on the Dakota Mailing List since the
> beginning (or for a while) know that it has bounced around from machine
> to machine. Well, we're moving again, hopefully for the last time. The
> nature of the list has also changed at the same time.
>
> Some of you know the major hassles we've had as a result of some
people
> at SUNY Fredonia, so a decision was made to move the list to a commercial
> ISP. This will give us a *LOT* more reliability and put an end to the
> beaurocratic and political hassles. Unfortunately, commercial ISP's
> expect some compensation for using their machines and bandwidth. :-)
> Before, the list costed nothing more than my own personal investment of
> time. Now, it will cost about $10/month. (Plus some initial startup
> costs.) As much as I enjoy the list, I can't really afford to support
> it on my own. After some discussion with a some other list members, the
> decision was made to go the PBS route. :-) That is, the list will
> survive through donations from the members. I know, I know... I wish
> there was some other way. I hate paying for stuff as much as the next
> person, but everyone I talked to about paying to keep the DML alive was
> quite receptive to the idea, and I think it'll work.
>
> The operating expenses will be about $140 for the first year, and $120

> for each year after that. The good news is that, with a conservative
> estimate of 330 members, the total cost per member would be about 36
cents
> per year. :-) So, hopefully, raising the nescessary funds won't be a
> problem. I plan to keep a status page on the DML Home Page that will say

> how much money we've got, etc... If it starts getting low, I will send
out
> a post begging for more. :-) If you can't (or don't want to) send any
> money, you don't have to. If you enjoy the list and you feel it is worth

> a dollar or 5 bucks, (or whatever) per year to you, your donation would
be
> greatly appreciated. :-) Feel free to donate whatever you want. We're
> fine for money for a while, but when I get around to making that page,
I'll
> put the nescessary information as to where and how you can send the
green.
> The point is, donating to the list is completely voluntary. This is not
> turning into a "paying members only list". The only way not donating to
> the list can possibly hurt you is when I run out of money and the list
dies.
> :-) Hopefully, it won't come to that.
>
> Again, I wish it didn't have to be this way, but I had to do
something.
> :-) With the large number of subscribers on this list, the cost per
> person should be almost nil.
>
>
> Now, on to the move:
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Here's the new information:
>
> The new address to send messages to the DML is:
>
> dakota-truck@buffnet.net
>
> The new administrative address will be majordomo@buffnet.net. The
> subscribe/unsubscribe commands will be slightly different.
>
> I will automatically subscribe everyone to the new list after I send
> out this message. That will then send out the intro file to everyone
> through the new list. (This is the file you would get as a new
subscriber
> to the list, and it will explain about how to use it.)
>
> If you get this message, and you don't receive the intro file, it is
> probable that you are not subscribed to the new list. In this case,
> e-mail me and I'll send you the intro file, which will explain how to
> subscribe.
>
> Unfortunately, with our current mailing list software (and the
> current political situation) I have no way of knowing which of you are
> subscribed to the digest version of the list. As such, everyone will
> be subscribed to the "normal" version. If you'd rather be on the
> digest version, you'll have to unsubscribe from tne normal list and
> subscribe to the digest version. (The intro file will explain how.)
> (If you prefer, you can send a message to me and I'll make the switch
> for you.) I apologize profusely for this inconvenience, especially
> seeing as how you just had to go through this same thing not very long
> ago. Hopefully, this will be the last time. :-)
>
> Also, you'll be able to subscribe, unsubscribe, etc. at this URL:
> http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/WWW/CGI-BIN/dml.html
>
> Well, as of right now, dakota@ait.fredonia.edu is officially dead.
> All messages should be sent to dakota-truck@buffnet.net.
>
> Oh, the reason for dakota-truck as opposed to dakota? There is
> already a user at buffnet with the address dakota@buffnet.net. :-P
> I wonder if I should ask them if they want to join? :-)
>
> Thanks in advance for your patience and understanding.
>
> Here goes nothing. :-)
>
> -Jon-
>
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