No I haven't seen or heard of that car. I have raced a 454 powered Suburban
that was sporting Headers and sounded pretty lumpy at idle. Smoked his butt,
and really pissed him off. Also road raced a Caddy Catera and made him pull
over and let me by. Then left him behind. May not be quick ET cars, but they
aren't dogs either. Plus all leather interior and every electronic toy you
can think of. Now pump in another 40HP in the 300m. I'm drooling.
Oh yeah, there is no comparison to taking my 96 Dak 318 out and putting my
foot through the grill. 230+ HP yanking you down the road.....no comparison.
JonH
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> [SMTP:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 2:48 PM
> To: dakota-truck-digest@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> Subject: DML Digest V3 #1398
>
> DML Digest Thursday, October 1 1998 Volume 03 : Number
> 1398
>
>
>
> The subjects discussed in this digest are:
> ==========
> DML: Bruce's TB pics
> DML: Dakota Options
> Re[3]: DML: Re: DMLHere We Go Aganin Was:: Late D
> Re: DML: Question for the DAK Dragsters?
> Re: DML: Shifter squeak
> DML: Totaled R/T
> Re: DML: 2.2 300HP
> Re: DML: Re: Question for the Dak Dragsters?
> Re: DML: RE: R/T brakes and TBs
> DML: R/T Braking. Was: Picked up the R/T last nite
> Re: DML: airaid
> Re: DML: Re: Question for the Dak Dragsters?
> DML: Re: Bruce's TB pics
> Re: DML: Totaled R/T
> Dakota Versatility was: Re[3] DML: Houston Meet Pix
> Re: DML: Totaled R/T
> Re: DML: NON-DAK troubles buying a Canadian car ?
> DML: RE: R/T Braking. Was: Picked up the R/T last nite
> Re: DML: Question for the DAK Dragsters?
> DML: RE: Re: Bruce's TB pics
> DML: In the "why didn't I think of that?" dept...
> Re: DML: Shifter squeak
> DML: Gtech
> Re: DML: 2.2 300HP
> Re: DML: DML Stickers (almost there, finally)
> Re: DML: Re: Question for the Dak Dragsters?
> Re: DML: R/T Braking.
> Re: DML: Question for the DAK Dragsters?
> Re: DML: 2.2 300HP
> DML: RE: In the "why didn't I think of that?" dept...
> DML: Re: '99 options
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 98 16:32:47 EDT
> From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
> Subject: DML: Bruce's TB pics
>
> Everyone,
>
> You can check out Bruce's pics of his stock TB and Frank's "stage 1"
> TB at:
>
> http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/WWW/DAKOTA/ATTACHMENTS/bbridges@alari
> smed.com/
>
>
>
> -Jon-
>
> .--- stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu ----------------------------------------.
> | Jon Steiger * AOPA, DoD, EAA, MP Race Team, NMA, SPA, USUA * RP-SEL |
> | '96 Dodge Dakota v8 SLT CC (14.77@92.97), '96 Kolb FireFly 447 |
> `--------------------------- http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/ ---'
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:33:05 -0700
> From: JHambleton@diabloresearch.com
> Subject: DML: Dakota Options
>
> For the person looking for ALL the options try this:
>
>
> I went on the internet under AAA and looked up Dakota. The sight gives all
> the options, including R/T, with both invoice and list prices. If you are
> a
> AAA member just plug in your Membership number where appropriate and
> search
> away.
>
> JonH
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 16:37:41 -0500
> From: fawcett@uism.bu.edu
> Subject: Re[3]: DML: Re: DMLHere We Go Aganin Was:: Late D
>
> > every little bit helps so get a hi
> > flow cat instead of cutting the damn thing off!
> >
> > Just my $.02.
> >
> > T.
> >
>
> Yep, hard to argue with that english.
>
> > My motto (farcically) is, "Shoot 'em all big or small --
> > Let God sort 'em out!".
>
>
> Mind if I make a DML Dakota type adjustment:
>
> "Run 'em all big or small --
> Let God sorta help me out!".
>
> GS -
>
> - -------------------------
>
> Nope. I don't mind... Your version has a better ring to it and more Dak
> content!
>
> T.
>
> BTW What's wrong with my english? Did I stick my foot in my mouth
> *again*!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:44:02 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
> Subject: Re: DML: Question for the DAK Dragsters?
>
> On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Wisotzkey, Rich wrote:
>
> > This is for you fellas with the 5-speeds. Have any of you played around
> > with with launching in 2nd gear as opposed to 1st gear? Which one is
> > quicker for track time?
> > Rich - Ashburn, VA
> >
>
> I've thought about this some myself. I suspect a big factor would
> be your rearend ratio. I have 3.55's with a sure-grip, and I would take
> off too slow in 2nd. On the street, I do sometimes take off in 2nd if
> I'm not in any particular hurry or if I'm going down an incline. (Or
> if I want to load the engine down a little bit and make the exhaust
> note sound real mean when I'm goin' through the drive-thru.) ;-) I also
> wonder about the strain on the engine and the clutch that would come
> from a 2nd gear launch.
>
> If I had 4.10s I might launch in 2nd, I dunno. I guess I'll have
> to wait until I get them to find out. One thing that I love about
> launching in first is that its a "granny gear" (for towing, I assume),
> but it'll really fling you past the automatics outta the hole, since
> their first gear isn't as tall. (After the launch you're on your
> own though; especially if you happen to be staged next to a fire
> breathin' bottle feeder.) ;-)
>
>
> -Jon-
>
> .--- stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu ----------------------------------------.
> | Jon Steiger * AOPA, DoD, EAA, MP Race Team, NMA, SPA, USUA * RP-SEL |
> | '96 Dodge Dakota v8 SLT CC (14.77@92.97), '96 Kolb FireFly 447 |
> `--------------------------- http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/ ---'
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:45:41 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
> Subject: Re: DML: Shifter squeak
>
> On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Hadden John P TSgt wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >=20
> > I want to know what I can use to get rid of a squeak my automatic shift
> > lever makes.=A0 It does it when moving into and out of every gear
> positio=
> n.=A0 I
> > use WD 40 for just about everything else... but am worried that it may
> ca=
> use
> > some problems years down the road with wires in the column, etc...=A0=20
>
>
> Maybe some silicone spray, or graphite? I think both of those are
> "wire friendly"? =20
>
>
> >=20
> > Also, has anyone else had the same terrible mileage with the stock tires
> > (Goodyear invictas)?=A0 I've got about 21k on these and they're almost
> re=
> ady
> > for the dump.=A0 Yes, I've rotated them every 3 or 4k.
> >=20
>
>
> Yep, you've got more miles than I was able to get out of mine. :-)
>
>
> -Jon-
>
> .--- stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu ----------------------------------------.
> | Jon Steiger * AOPA, DoD, EAA, MP Race Team, NMA, SPA, USUA * RP-SEL |
> | '96 Dodge Dakota v8 SLT CC (14.77@92.97), '96 Kolb FireFly 447 |
> `--------------------------- http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/ ---'
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:46:30 EDT
> From: Rekker21@aol.com
> Subject: DML: Totaled R/T
>
> On my way home today I saw a totaled solar yellow R/T on the side of the
> E-
> Way. Can we all have a moment of silence.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you.
> Eric
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:52:02 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
> Subject: Re: DML: 2.2 300HP
>
> On Thu, 1 Oct 1998 JHambleton@diabloresearch.com wrote:
>
> > DML List:
> >
> > Yes the DOHC had some problems. BUT you don't need the DOHC to get
> > 300HP. Get on the Shelby Dodge Mailing List and talk to guys like Cliff
> > Sebring, Gus Mahon, Neil D., etc. I'm looking at 215HP on my
> non-intercooled
> > 2.2.
> > V8 powered rear drive sports car??? Copperhead is most likely, but
> > it won't be a big bore, or even a 318. The V8's we're familiar with are
> > going away. The new millennium will see small bore, high output, high
> > efficiency, V8's powering the cars.
>
>
> Granted, this is all rumors and 2nd and 3rd hand information, but my
> understanding was that Dodge was looking to produce the Copperhead in such
>
> a way that you could get a wide variety of engines in it; anything
> from a V6 to the V10. Since its a car, I assume they're talkin'
> about the Viper V10, as opposed to the Ram V10.
>
> I sure hope they go through with this. Chevy seems to want to
> get rid of the Camaro, but Ford is putting even more time and
> money into their Mustang programs. Trucks may be popular now,
> but I don't think the pony-car is dead quite yet. I think its
> high time Chrysler did get involved. An affordable CC alternative
> to the Camaro, Firebird, and Mustang would be great! (I'm driving
> the closest thing they've got to that right now.) :-) I'll never
> get rid of my truck, but if I could afford another car, a CC pony car
> would be very tempting. :-)
>
>
> -Jon-
>
> .--- stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu ----------------------------------------.
> | Jon Steiger * AOPA, DoD, EAA, MP Race Team, NMA, SPA, USUA * RP-SEL |
> | '96 Dodge Dakota v8 SLT CC (14.77@92.97), '96 Kolb FireFly 447 |
> `--------------------------- http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/ ---'
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:52:04 -0700
> From: Christopher Bogart <cbogart@netscape.com>
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Question for the Dak Dragsters?
>
> With 3.92s and 31" tires, I start in 2nd except for moderate to steep
> hills.
> With 3.55s and same tires, I found it too much a drag on clutch to start
> in
> second, unless I was pointing downhill, which happens often in San
> Francisco.
>
> Bogart
>
> GSWillhite wrote:
>
> > > Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 07:02:49 -0700
> > > From: "Wisotzkey, Rich" <Rich.Wisotzkey@gsc.gte.com>
> > > Subject: DML: Question for the DAK Dragsters?
> > >
> > > This is for you fellas with the 5-speeds. Have any of you played
> around
> > > with with launching in 2nd gear as opposed to 1st gear? Which one is
> > > quicker for track time?
> > > Rich - Ashburn, VA
> > >
> >
> > I have considered launching in 2nd on the street, sense 2nd is
> > a wammy compared to 1st. Don't know if it would do the tranny
> > any good upping the RPM's to compensate.
> >
> > GS
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:58:29 -0700
> From: Bob Mankin <bob@cadpros.com>
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: R/T brakes and TBs
>
> Bridges, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> > No brake changes yet. Im hoping for an eventual rear disk upgrade. Im
> > going to do the carbon pad thing as well, but Im going to wear out my
> > factory set first (shouldnt take too long). I saved the posts for the
> > stillen brake disks for future upgrade as well. Im not really unhappy
> with
> > the R/Ts brakes, its just that the R/T lulls you into driving it like a
> HP
> > sports car but it still hauls down like a truck, a good truck, but a
> > truck.... shoulda had the viper brake option...%>
>
> Bruce, check with Porterfield if you opt for discs. Same deal at a $140
> savings. They take OEM discs and drill in their facility for $50 each. I
> was quoted $260 for a pair of fronts. FWIW, I've found that with
> Stillen, anything they carry that can be found elsewhere is usually
> cheaper elsewhere<g>. I did pop for some of their urethane stuff, but
> man are they hurtin' in the documentation dept. Neither came with any
> sort of instructions.
>
> I too am hoping Stainless Steel Brakes comes up with a rear kit for the
> DAK next month. Usually the SEMA show has all the new announcements.
>
> Bob
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:57:24 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
> Subject: DML: R/T Braking. Was: Picked up the R/T last nite
>
> On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Bob Mankin wrote:
>
> > Bridges, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > George,
> > > Right on. Youll need to change your email address now. The R/T just
> seems
> > > to get better as you drive! Just remeber its a truck once in a while
> > > instead of a Viper (it becomes obvious under extreme braking
> conditions).
> >
> > Bruce,
> >
> > On the braking topic, did you do anything to upgrade yours as yet? I've
> > got a set of carbon pads from Porterfield that I haven't had time to
> > install. I'm hopefull that will help. Gotten close to being in trouble
> > with a quick stop more than once<g>.
> >
>
> I haven't had a really good look at the newer bodystyle, but would it
> be possible to mount 2 ram-air inlets in the air dam area, and route it
> through the wheelwell and to brake disk? (Similar to the airraid ram air
> setup except you're using it to cool the brakes instead of the engine.)
> Sounds like it would be a relatively cheap thing to try, but I have no
> idea
> what kind of impact it would have on braking performance (if any).
> Probably
> couldn't hurt, unless you drove through a cloud of WD-40. ;-) A lot of
> high-buck performance cars have vents that direct cool air to the brakes,
> so
> why not do the same?
>
>
> -Jon-
>
> .--- stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu ----------------------------------------.
> | Jon Steiger * AOPA, DoD, EAA, MP Race Team, NMA, SPA, USUA * RP-SEL |
> | '96 Dodge Dakota v8 SLT CC (14.77@92.97), '96 Kolb FireFly 447 |
> `--------------------------- http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/ ---'
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:57:27 -0700
> From: Christopher Bogart <cbogart@netscape.com>
> Subject: Re: DML: airaid
>
> What are these products?
>
> Bogart
>
> Kabuki2@aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 10/1/98 1:13:37 PM, you wrote:
> >
> > <<Is that deal with the Airaid still in the works, or has it been
> dumped.
> > If it is still a go, count me in!
> >
> > Brian>>
> >
> > I'm probably going to do the AirAid purchase after I get the TransGo's
> on the
> > way.
> >
> > ttyl
> > Patrick
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:58:41 -0400
> From: Chris lang <langcj@clarkson.edu>
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Question for the Dak Dragsters?
>
> How much of a difference do you find between the 3.55s and 3.92s with
> 31"s??
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Bogart <cbogart@netscape.com>
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 5:03 PM
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Question for the Dak Dragsters?
>
>
> >With 3.92s and 31" tires, I start in 2nd except for moderate to steep
> hills.
> >With 3.55s and same tires, I found it too much a drag on clutch to start
> in
> >second, unless I was pointing downhill, which happens often in San
> Francisco.
> >
> >Bogart
> >
> >GSWillhite wrote:
> >
> >> > Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 07:02:49 -0700
> >> > From: "Wisotzkey, Rich" <Rich.Wisotzkey@gsc.gte.com>
> >> > Subject: DML: Question for the DAK Dragsters?
> >> >
> >> > This is for you fellas with the 5-speeds. Have any of you played
> around
> >> > with with launching in 2nd gear as opposed to 1st gear? Which one is
> >> > quicker for track time?
> >> > Rich - Ashburn, VA
> >> >
> >>
> >> I have considered launching in 2nd on the street, sense 2nd is
> >> a wammy compared to 1st. Don't know if it would do the tranny
> >> any good upping the RPM's to compensate.
> >>
> >> GS
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:04:50 -0400
> From: Chris lang <langcj@clarkson.edu>
> Subject: DML: Re: Bruce's TB pics
>
> What exaxtly was done to these TBs?
>
> Chris
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 4:45 PM
> Subject: DML: Bruce's TB pics
>
>
> > Everyone,
> >
> > You can check out Bruce's pics of his stock TB and Frank's "stage 1"
> >TB at:
> >
> >http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/WWW/DAKOTA/ATTACHMENTS/bbridges@alar
> is
> med.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > -Jon-
> >
> > .--- stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu ----------------------------------------.
> > | Jon Steiger * AOPA, DoD, EAA, MP Race Team, NMA, SPA, USUA * RP-SEL |
> > | '96 Dodge Dakota v8 SLT CC (14.77@92.97), '96 Kolb FireFly 447 |
> > `--------------------------- http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/ ---'
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 17:11:46 -0500
> From: Robert Trottmann <rotrottmann@davidson.edu>
> Subject: Re: DML: Totaled R/T
>
> I'd like to say I have nothing to do with this, was not near the incident,
> and
> have no further comments.
> - -Robert
> I don't have a carriage bolt anywhere near me.
>
> Rekker21@aol.com wrote:
>
> > On my way home today I saw a totaled solar yellow R/T on the side of the
> E-
> > Way. Can we all have a moment of silence.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Eric
>
>
>
> - --
> Mailto:rotrottmann@davidson.edu
> http://www.davidson.edu/personal/rotrottmann/default.htm
> Davidson, NC
> 95 Sport 318 Auto 2WD
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 16:19:53 -0600
> From: GSWillhite <GSWillhite@ualr.edu>
> Subject: Dakota Versatility was: Re[3] DML: Houston Meet Pix
>
> >
> > I swear I was thinking the other day that any number of us could make
> > a HELLUVA commercial for CC. Every day driver (not babied at all),
> > soccer practice, groceries, work, ect. Friday night, tearing it up
> > at the track. Come hunting season, covered in sand and mud and acting
> > like a TRUCK.
> >
> > Truly a great all around vehicle. Does it all with comfort and
> > style!
> >
> > Tate
> >
>
> I saw a nice emerald green SLT on the freeway the other day with
> what I thought was a Motorcycle in the bed. As I got closer I noticed
> it was a wheel chair and a winch/crain system to hoist the wheel
> chair from the bed to the ground. I wondered what type of mods
> were made for the driver, who incidentally was alone. Nice to
> know if something were to happen to your legs (Yikes!) you could
> still drive the greatest little truck made.
>
> GS
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 14:14:40 -0700
> From: Christopher Bogart <cbogart@netscape.com>
> Subject: Re: DML: Totaled R/T
>
> Sure.
>
> And now that that's over, can I have the engine?
>
> Bogart
>
> Rekker21@aol.com wrote:
>
> > On my way home today I saw a totaled solar yellow R/T on the side of the
> E-
> > Way. Can we all have a moment of silence.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Eric
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:19:44 EDT
> From: Rekker21@aol.com
> Subject: Re: DML: NON-DAK troubles buying a Canadian car ?
>
> In a message dated 10/1/98 9:55:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> HEMI@charter.net
> writes:
>
> <<
> You did say Aspen and Police Engine in the same
> >sentence didn't you?
>
> Yes , did I mention it's an R/T SC ? Or that it was a 2-door ? Or that it
> has only a little bit o rust on the trunk lid below the spoiler ?
> >>
> oh, yeah, sure! Rub it in!!!
> Yeah, but does it have T-tops?????
> Eric
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:18:12 -0700
> From: "Bridges, Bruce" <bbridges@alarismed.com>
> Subject: DML: RE: R/T Braking. Was: Picked up the R/T last nite
>
> Jon,
> Thanks for posting the pics And... I think you could ut some of the low
> profile Vents from air inlet systems (or home depot for that matter) under
> the dam and route 3" ducts to the brakes. I might just try it!
> BKB
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Steiger [mailto:stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 1:57 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: R/T Braking. Was: Picked up the R/T last nite
>
>
> On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Bob Mankin wrote:
>
> > Bridges, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > George,
> > > Right on. Youll need to change your email address now. The R/T just
> seems
> > > to get better as you drive! Just remeber its a truck once in a while
> > > instead of a Viper (it becomes obvious under extreme braking
> conditions).
> >
> > Bruce,
> >
> > On the braking topic, did you do anything to upgrade yours as yet? I've
> > got a set of carbon pads from Porterfield that I haven't had time to
> > install. I'm hopefull that will help. Gotten close to being in trouble
> > with a quick stop more than once<g>.
> >
>
> I haven't had a really good look at the newer bodystyle, but would it
> be possible to mount 2 ram-air inlets in the air dam area, and route it
> through the wheelwell and to brake disk? (Similar to the airraid ram air
> setup except you're using it to cool the brakes instead of the engine.)
> Sounds like it would be a relatively cheap thing to try, but I have no
> idea
> what kind of impact it would have on braking performance (if any).
> Probably
>
> couldn't hurt, unless you drove through a cloud of WD-40. ;-) A lot of
> high-buck performance cars have vents that direct cool air to the brakes,
> so
>
> why not do the same?
>
>
> -Jon-
>
> .--- stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu ----------------------------------------.
> | Jon Steiger * AOPA, DoD, EAA, MP Race Team, NMA, SPA, USUA * RP-SEL |
> | '96 Dodge Dakota v8 SLT CC (14.77@92.97), '96 Kolb FireFly 447 |
> `--------------------------- http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/ ---'
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:25:59 EDT
> From: Rekker21@aol.com
> Subject: Re: DML: Question for the DAK Dragsters?
>
> In a message dated 10/1/98 10:09:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Rich.Wisotzkey@gsc.gte.com writes:
>
> << This is for you fellas with the 5-speeds. Have any of you played
> around
> with with launching in 2nd gear as opposed to 1st gear? Which one is
> quicker for track time? >>
> yes I have done this and Ive only done it once! Get it?
> First gear may be short, especially with the 4.10, but its a butt kicker
> out
> of the hole!
> If I start in second its a little dogy, but after about half of a second
> with
> my foot in it, it just spins like a top. I found its better to jump off
> the
> line in first and immediately dump it to second, I mean, as soon as your
> R's
> at about 2800 in first find second fast! My 5.9 at those R's from first to
> second grabs like a cat out of a bag and actually made one guy slow down
> immediately, then pulled up to me and just wanted to watch to see if my
> front
> end would come off the ground, which it won't! Yet!!
> Now, if Im running a stock stang or an Iroc Z, Ill give em a break and
> start
> in second! Its funny to watch their face when I tell them that and then
> back
> up about 4 feet and give them a head start!! I have to make it a
> challenge
> atleast!
> Eric
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:25:33 -0700
> From: "Bridges, Bruce" <bbridges@alarismed.com>
> Subject: DML: RE: Re: Bruce's TB pics
>
> The one is stock, my R/Ts original equipment (other than the flipped air
> hat
> keeper). Franks has the shroud above the plates removed and that diameter
> is carried up to the "top" in an 8 deg angle (optimum angle). The bottom
> of
> the shaft was flattened and button head screws replace the stockers with a
> flush trim to the shaft. The bore below the butterflys was cleaned up
> with
> a surface finish around 32 microinch or better. Yopu can definitly feel
> the
> difference with a punchier lower end "off the stops" and a better high
> end.
> Ill have more quantitative data next week (I hope)
> BKB
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris lang [mailto:langcj@clarkson.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 2:05 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: Re: Bruce's TB pics
>
>
> What exaxtly was done to these TBs?
>
> Chris
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 4:45 PM
> Subject: DML: Bruce's TB pics
>
>
> > Everyone,
> >
> > You can check out Bruce's pics of his stock TB and Frank's "stage 1"
> >TB at:
> >
> >http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/WWW/DAKOTA/ATTACHMENTS/bbridges@alar
> is
> med.com/
> >
> >
> >
> > -Jon-
> >
> > .--- stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu ----------------------------------------.
> > | Jon Steiger * AOPA, DoD, EAA, MP Race Team, NMA, SPA, USUA * RP-SEL |
> > | '96 Dodge Dakota v8 SLT CC (14.77@92.97), '96 Kolb FireFly 447 |
> > `--------------------------- http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/ ---'
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 17:28:27 -0400
> From: Rader <rlr@rtp-bosch.com>
> Subject: DML: In the "why didn't I think of that?" dept...
>
> Who suggested turning the throttle body-to-air cleaner 7/8" offset
> assembly
> upside down? Bruce? Well, I tried that method and it worked like a charm
> (once I added a longer 1/4" bolt, of course). Now I'm kicking myself in
> the
> ass for driving around with my kludged (dangerous) S-bolt for so long.
> Not
> only that, but it fits both my stock air can AND my homebrew FIPK. Good
> for
> inspection swaps. Now that my sticker is about 2 months out of date... ;)
>
> Easy and effective, thanks.
>
> Ron
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:27:51 EDT
> From: Rekker21@aol.com
> Subject: Re: DML: Shifter squeak
>
> In a message dated 10/1/98 11:04:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> John.Hadden@macdill.af.mil writes:
>
> <<
> I want to know what I can use to get rid of a squeak my automatic shift
> lever make >>
> I fixed mine with a NV3500!
> Eric
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 17:15:25 -0400
> From: Chad <mcc@negia.net>
> Subject: DML: Gtech
>
> Has anyone ever used of the the Gtech Plug-in Performance Testing
> Meters? Do they work? Have any info on them? JCWhitney has them for
> $123.95 right now. How good a price is that?
>
> Thanks for ALL the help,
>
> Chad
>
>
> - --
> If you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava, let'em go,
> because, man, they're gone.
> By Jack Handy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:30:16 EDT
> From: Rekker21@aol.com
> Subject: Re: DML: 2.2 300HP
>
> In a message dated 10/1/98 11:43:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> JHambleton@diabloresearch.com writes:
>
> << AND don't put down the LH cars till you drive one. I have surprised
> a lot of "hot" cars with my Chrysler LHS. 3.5L V6 214HP 6 passenger 4
> door
> boat. It's fast, and highly maneuverable. No it's not a sports car. But I
> wouldn't own it if it didn't perform.
> >>
> Have you ever seen the LHS that Mr Mancini did? DUAL 3.5l!! One up front
> and
> one in back. I raced him with my dak before the 5.2 5.9 swop and he
> wooped my
> behind!! Fast as hell.
> Eric
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:36:50 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
> Subject: Re: DML: DML Stickers (almost there, finally)
>
> On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, GSWillhite wrote:
>
> > Jon I like the idea of having an OFFICIAL DML sticker
> > on my Dak. I don't like the Pentastar-DML logo. Don't
> > get me wrong I know some thinking has gone into that
> > decal design. Would it be possible to order-buy one
> > that is consolidated in design?
> > One similar to the Scat Pak Ram w/maybe the D M L in
> > a right hand slant behind the wheels would be super cool
> > and maybe save having to plant 2 on your Dak.
> >
> > Are we locked in on the design ?
> >
> > GS
>
>
> No, we're not locked into a design yet. If we're going
> to change anything, now is the time to do it!
>
> He's got a good point about having to use 2 seperate
> stickers. The pentastar thing was just something I came
> up with because I can't draw a ram to save my life. :-)
> I admit it is sort've uninspired. :-) Actually, since
> this is a Dodge list and not a general Chrysler or Mopar
> thing, it probably would be good to use a Ram somehow? It
> would be nice to have a more personable logo than the
> pentastar, the ram could be sort've a mascot or somethin'... :-)
> Its also got a kind of "Super Bee" nostalgic feeling to it.
>
> Another nice thing about the Ram is that it was drawn
> by the guy who designed the Sidewinder; a nice Dakota
> connection there... :-)
>
> My only doubts about the Ram are maybe its a little too
> "wild" for some folks?
>
> Any and all thoughts and opinions about this would be greatly
> appreciated!! Maybe the Ram, with "DML" (in the "Mopar" font) in
> there somewhere, along with "WWW.DAKOTA-TRUCK.NET" (same as in the
> other pentastar logo) along the bottom?
>
> I'll try to work something up and see what it looks like.
>
> Lets figure this out! :-)
>
> -Jon-
>
> .--- stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu ----------------------------------------.
> | Jon Steiger * AOPA, DoD, EAA, MP Race Team, NMA, SPA, USUA * RP-SEL |
> | '96 Dodge Dakota v8 SLT CC (14.77@92.97), '96 Kolb FireFly 447 |
> `--------------------------- http://www.cs.fredonia.edu/~stei0302/ ---'
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 14:39:46 -0700
> From: Christopher Bogart <cbogart@netscape.com>
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: Question for the Dak Dragsters?
>
> What do you mean by difference? Well, I'll guess.
>
> Acceleration: Faster
>
> Topend: Slower (I did 120 with the 3.55s. Truck doesn't seem to like going
> past
> 90 now)
>
> Noise: More, though I haven't determined if this is b/c of gears, or
> something
> else like misaligned driveshafts or missing balance wieghts. I get a
> harmonic
> vibration/hum noise at 75+.
>
> Hill climbing: Much, much Better. I can now imagine towing and hauling on
> long
> grades, where as before I was dreading the constant shifting that would be
> required. I recently hauled 800+ pounds of motorcycles to Thunderhill
> raceway,
> and the truck did great and the grades on 80. More real-life test to be
> had this
> winter with snowboard trips to Tahoe.
>
> Gas mileage: Worse, that's why I'm looking at exhaust, intake, ignition,
> and
> performance chip upgrades. Also, a shell should help a bit, though the
> winch
> will probably offset that.
>
> Driveability: Well, highway speeds are slower, which is good, but
> sometimes I
> get impatient. Like I said, this vibration thing needs to be looked at,
> and once
> solved, maybe I'll go 70+ again. For now, it's 65, which is better for gas
> mileage.
>
> Hope that helps. If your looking for streetability, probably best to stick
> with
> 3.55s. For towing, hauling and offroading, the 3.92s are going to be your
> friend.
>
> Bogart
>
> Chris lang wrote:
>
> > How much of a difference do you find between the 3.55s and 3.92s with
> 31"s??
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 14:37:20 -0700
> From: Bob Mankin <bob@cadpros.com>
> Subject: Re: DML: R/T Braking.
>
> Jon Steiger wrote:
> >
> >
> > I haven't had a really good look at the newer bodystyle, but would it
> > be possible to mount 2 ram-air inlets in the air dam area, and route it
> > through the wheelwell and to brake disk? (Similar to the airraid ram
> air
> > setup except you're using it to cool the brakes instead of the engine.)
> > Sounds like it would be a relatively cheap thing to try, but I have no
> idea
> > what kind of impact it would have on braking performance (if any).
> Probably
> > couldn't hurt, unless you drove through a cloud of WD-40. ;-) A lot of
> > high-buck performance cars have vents that direct cool air to the
> brakes, so
> > why not do the same?
>
> Jon,
>
> I'm installing some Stillen front end stuff in a couple of weeks. The
> bumper cover/air dam has some potential for brake duct hookup, though my
> truck has the optional driving lights and that's the ideal place to pick
> up from. I don't really want to ditch the lights just for the ducting
> work, so I'm looking at what else can be done. By the time you mount the
> bumper cover and the accompanying billet grill insert, there's little
> room left behind the lower section of the radiators(I looked at
> Stillen's project Dakota on Monday).
>
> Man, I have to tell you, I was underimpressed by that project truck.
> While their pieces look good from the outside, the quality of the
> installs, surely done by their own staff, leaves alot to be desired. I'm
> having a local paint shop do it for me. They do lots of this sort of
> stuff and I feel they'll make it clean.
>
> And for those who had inquired about power rear sliders, that Stillen
> truck has one in it. Clean piece. I asked about it and for a moment
> thought I might get a deal on a leftover kit hiding in their warehouse.
> No such luck however. They don't stock them or have any plans to.
>
> Bob
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:42:08 EDT
> From: Rekker21@aol.com
> Subject: Re: DML: Question for the DAK Dragsters?
>
> In a message dated 10/1/98 4:46:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu writes:
>
> << After the launch you're on your
> own though; especially if you happen to be staged next to a fire
> breathin' bottle feeder.) ;-) >>
> bottle feeders. RRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
> Eric
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:43:52 EDT
> From: Rekker21@aol.com
> Subject: Re: DML: 2.2 300HP
>
> In a message dated 10/1/98 4:54:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu writes:
>
> <<
> Granted, this is all rumors and 2nd and 3rd hand information, but my
> understanding was that Dodge was looking to produce the Copperhead in
> such
> a way that you could get a wide variety of engines in it; anything
> from a V6 to the V10. Since its a car, I assume they're talkin'
> about the Viper V10, as opposed to the Ram V10. >>
> Jon, wouldnt that be awesome! But, its not going to happen! There are
> other
> plans in the works though.
> Eric
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:41:32 -0700
> From: "Bridges, Bruce" <bbridges@alarismed.com>
> Subject: DML: RE: In the "why didn't I think of that?" dept...
>
> Ron,
> NO problem. Now the big Q. Why didnt Chrysler think of it?? Gotta be
> some
> engineering rationale floating around..
> Bruce
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Rader [mailto:rlr@rtp-bosch.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 2:28 PM
> To: Dakota Mailing List
> Subject: DML: In the "why didn't I think of that?" dept...
>
>
> Who suggested turning the throttle body-to-air cleaner 7/8" offset
> assembly
> upside down? Bruce? Well, I tried that method and it worked like a charm
> (once I added a longer 1/4" bolt, of course). Now I'm kicking myself in
> the
> ass for driving around with my kludged (dangerous) S-bolt for so long.
> Not
> only that, but it fits both my stock air can AND my homebrew FIPK. Good
> for
> inspection swaps. Now that my sticker is about 2 months out of date... ;)
>
> Easy and effective, thanks.
>
> Ron
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:42:52 -0700
> From: Jason Muffenbier <Jpm699@email.msn.com>
> Subject: DML: Re: '99 options
>
> Check out Microsofts carpoint. There you can pick your vehicle, choose
> options, get invoice and sticker price, and see all the current
> incentives.
> www.carpoint.com
>
> Jason
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >The chrysler site is no help. dealers suck and have not gotten back to
> >me.
> >I am beginning to do my research for a '99 and I can not find a list of
> >ALL possible options. for instance, I am interested in the leather
> >seats and trim found in the Durango, and, these were not an option for
> >'98. anyway, I want an updated list of what's new. Does anyone have
> >one?
> >
> >How about those DENVER Broncos?!
> >
> >Pedro...in Denver.
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
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