Re: RE:DML V10 for Durango

From: Patrick Delgado (dadoctah@worldnet.att.net)
Date: Thu Dec 24 1998 - 09:08:26 EST


Can I have one of those "Kia-like tiny mini-utes" with the V10 to go. Oh,
and a large order of fries(fried tires, that is).

                                  dadoctah@worldnet.att.net
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>From: Shaun.Hendricks@bergenbrunswig.com
>To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
>Subject: DML: RE:DML V10 for Durango
>Date: Thu, Dec 24, 1998, 4:54 PM
>

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>At 01:14 AM 12/24/98 -0500, you wrote:
>>A V10 Durango would be stupid. Who would by these trucks? Probably less
>
>
> I ask myself "who would buy that?" for most of the vehicles I see on
>the road today! ;-) To each his own I guess. Look at it this way...
>At least they're stuffing a big engine into a great vehicle, rather than
>coming out with some Kia-like tiny mini-ute. :-)
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>
> The original statement was made as if "One truck fit all". It really
>doesn't matter WHY they are doing it. Companies don't go around spending
>bunches of dollars for giggles. Daimler-Chrysler obviously feels there is a
>market for this kind of SUV. I would also bet that they will translate what
>they learn down into the Dakota.
>
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>>people than the Viper. This truck would not be as fast as the Viper and
>>probably more expensive so who is the target market? Plus considering it
>>probably is the truck V10 and not the vipers it gets about 9 mpg. Who want
>>that if you don't need the towing capabilities of the engine. It sounds
> great
>>in theory but than so does communism. This is a totally impractical truck.
>>Chrysler should just stick with the SP Durango if the rumor is even true.
>
> Yep, this truck probably wouldn't appeal to the "speed" faction,
>especially since it probably would be the truck V10. (actually, the Durango
>in general probably doesn't...) But some people just want the biggest engine
>they can get... :-) Also, I think the Durango can already tow something
>like 7,000lbs, so the V10 would probably jack that number up even more. A
>great alternative for a family that needs a lot of seating or cargo room
>(they're immediately limited to a minivan or sport ute), but also needs to
>tow some big stuff.
>
> This vehicle would be perfect for someone needing a lot of seating
>room who is faced with the possibility of having to buy another
>vehicle just to tow a large boat or something.
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> Your logic here seems fine but even you Jon are forgetting something:
>torque rules the streets. A 1-ton duelly with a V10, automatic, a 3.55
>rearend, and minor mods would waste even the fastest Dak on the list here.
>Those snarling beasts have almost 400ft lbs of torque :stock: AT AN IDLE.
>They also out horsepower the Daks by a lot. They don't weigh much more so
>their power to weight ratios are better than ours. The power curve on the
>truck V10 is the flattest I've ever seen on a truck motor.
> I've watched a 1 ton V10 lay down a patch of rubber that would make most
>power fiends drool. Remember: that's a hell of a footprint those trucks have
>and they can still out distance our daks in a rubber laying contest. The one
>I watched had the duelly wheels removed and replaced with a custom set of mags
>that ran a racing tire the entire width of the old set of 2 tires.
> Just because the engine is iron, uses pushrods instead of overhead cams,
>and is in a truck doesn't mean it's any less of an engine. The Viper motor
>pushes the Viper around very nicely, but put a 15,000lb trailer behind it and
>watch it self destruct. It's a delicate motor that has some well know
>problems (like insufficient oil circulation). The V-10 truck motor is solid
>as a rock and is basically a 318/360 with 2 more cylinders tacked on. I'd
>trade in my V-8 for a V-10 any day of the week. I certainly wouldn't be
>losing much gas mileage compared to what my truck swallows now.
> The towing limitation on a Durango/Dakota would be when the frame snapped
>under the load... it would be an interesting truck to drive. Not to mention,
>the sound alone would be enough to frighten other street-rods... Would it
>beat a Viper? Not likely, but every other car and truck would be bowing to
>it's presence on the asphault.
>
>Shaun H.



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