Re: RE:DML V10 for Durango

From: Elmer Hanhart (hanharte@swbell.net)
Date: Fri Dec 25 1998 - 01:21:43 EST


I don't remember the exact details, but here goes. Truckin' did an
article in the new Chrysler Connection column they put out about a year
ago. They said that the Ram in the configuration of: Reg. Cab, long bed,
dual rear wheels, 4.10 Sure-Grip, 8.0 V-10, 5 spd. was the fastest
vehicle Dodge made (excluding Viper). I seem to remember that this was
including the Mopar Performance Package on the Ram, Dakota V8 auto., and
the Neon, but it might have been all stock vehicles. I have been beaten
by a V-10 Ram. It is an ext. cab, auto, dually, all red, all Mopar
Performance parts available (headers, cam, etc.), and a Supercharger on
top of that. He beat me pretty bad, about as bad as my cousins 95 Cobra.
I stopped and talked to him after we raced, he mentioned Magnum
Performance, but said he hadn't taken it to the strip yet. Nice guy, I
have seen his truck around a few times since then. Well, I saw a red
blur anyway... :)

Erich 98 ext. cab V8 5spd.

BTW Isn't Dodge coming out w/ a newer smaller V-10 soon?
>
>
> I'll admit right off the bat that I've never driven or ridden in a V10
> ram, but I am pretty confident that I can take just about any of 'em, and
> I'm far from the fastest Dak on this list. I think I could safely bet the
> farm on Tom's 11.5@118 Dak or Dahrl's 10.68@125 being able to outrun a
> big ol' dualie. ;-)
>
> While its true that the V10 has a decent amount of horsepower and
> gobs of torque, it makes it down REALLY low. Does anyone know the
> redline on the truck V10? I think its somewhere in the neighborhood
> of 3,000 RPM. Or am I thinking of the Cummins? A motor like that will
> tow like a locomotive, but it doesn't stand a chance during drag racing.
>
> Ok, I found some more info; looks like the V10 redline is 4500.
> The 1-2 and 3-4 shifts occur at 3500rpm, not exactly an ideal drag
> racing setup. (And I don't think its available in a manual. ?)
> Check out this actual dyno pull of a modified V10 in a 1995
> 4x4: http://gn2.getnet.com/~sbelt/images/dyno_peak.gif
> At about 2,000 rpm it was making about 470lb-ft of torque, but
> it just kept falling from there, and while the HP did slowly creep
> up, the curve is rather flat, finally peaking about about 260hp
> around 4200rpm.
>
> > I've watched a 1 ton V10 lay down a patch of rubber that would make most
> >power fiends drool. Remember: that's a hell of a footprint those trucks have
> >and they can still out distance our daks in a rubber laying contest. The one
> >I watched had the duelly wheels removed and replaced with a custom set of mags
> >that ran a racing tire the entire width of the old set of 2 tires.
>
> I've never understood the "how far can you patch out?" folks. :-) Tires
> that aren't hooked up don't do anyone except your competitor any good. Its
> one
> of the basic philosophies of drag racing. You lift, you lose; you spin,
> you lose.
> :-) That Ram you saw obviously has a lot of torque, but personally, I
> prefer to
> have the low end a little weak to allow the tires to hook, then start churning
> out the real power at midrange and high end where traction isn't such a
> big issue.
>
> > Just because the engine is iron, uses pushrods instead of overhead cams,
> >and is in a truck doesn't mean it's any less of an engine. The Viper motor
> >pushes the Viper around very nicely, but put a 15,000lb trailer behind it and
> >watch it self destruct. It's a delicate motor that has some well know
> >problems (like insufficient oil circulation). The V-10 truck motor is solid
> >as a rock and is basically a 318/360 with 2 more cylinders tacked on. I'd
> >trade in my V-8 for a V-10 any day of the week. I certainly wouldn't be
> >losing much gas mileage compared to what my truck swallows now.
>
> ? I didn't mean to imply that it was any less of an engine, just that
> it was better suited to towing than speed. Heck, I love the pushrod engine!
> Easy to understand, easy to work on... No DOHC for me, thanks! :-) It just
> depends on what you want to do with your truck. I'm admittedly a speed freak,
> my main interest is in how fast I can get down the 1/4 mile. So, I'll keep my
> V8. (Well, I'll take the 360...) ;-) The V10 just doesn't appear to be well
> suited to drag racing.
>
> I've never seen a V10 Ram at the dragstrip, but now you've piqued my
> curiosity. Anyone know about what they run in the 1/4? I think the
> 360 equipped SS/T / Indy Ram's run in the 16's somewhere; seems to me
> that subtracting 2 seconds is a fairly tall order for a V8->V10 swap.
>
> -Jon-
>
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