I would agree on the concept of trial and error..... I made the
assumption if you owned a R/T and I owned a R/T. The only difference in
performance on the track would be my driving skills against any
others???? I was thinking about purchasing a set of plugs, 8.5 mm
wires, and a new coil. I just wanted to know more about their function
and how the engine could run smoother. I don't realistically see gains
in power, but maybe shoot for gains in the quickness factor, say
acceleration through the RPM spectrum???? The thing I hate most about
automatics is the lag when shifting gears and accelerating.... I love a
good manual I can just slap that puppy in any gear, hahahahaha.... My
Ram with the 318 5 speed may not have been Vette speed, but she sure
sifter a heck of a lot faster on a good day..... I still had
acceleration battles at certain RPMS and speeds, but at least I had the
sifter factor in my hands, hehehe..... Does anyone think the stock PCM
will adjust to a new set of plugs, wires, and coil properly???? I hear
the only reason for an ignition box is to take advantage of your new
parts, cuz the stock PCM may not go the extra mile?????
Jason
1/18/99 9:47 AM
-----Original Message-----
From: Bernd D. Ratsch [SMTP:bernd@texas.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 1999 10:10 PM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Cc: Wayne Garrahan
Subject: RE: DML: r/t help (All Modifications)
Not true...Get a good set of plugs, good wires and a good coil.
Also,
"Blueprint" all the sensors on the engine. We used to do this on
5.0L
Mustangs years ago and it worked everytime. Faster ET's, better
response,
even better gas mileage.
I agree...there are "Wonder Boxes" out there that claim more
power, Spark
Plugs, Chips, Wires, Mufflers, etc. (And yes...I've tried
several -
CompCams, MSD, Mallory, Accell..I just stuck with what worked
for my
specific application. That may, or may not work on yours.)
The ONLY way to find out which part (or combination of parts)
works best on
your vehicle for your situation is good old fashioned "Trial and
Error".
Let's create a hypothetical engine. 250HP - Stock (Dakota...I
like those)
Now, lets add "Claimed" Horsepower increasers:
(1) Intake Configuration (TB for example): 20HP
(2) Air Filter/Intake Combination: 10HP
(3) Headers: 20HP
(4) Muffler: 15HP
(5) Spark Plugs: 5HP
(6) Ignition Box: 10HP
(7) Plug Wires: 5HP
(8) "Super Chip": 25HP
(9) Octane Booster, "Super Lube": 5HP
That totals: 105HP! WOW...Now why doesn't the truck run any
different??
Combination, Design, Application...these are all variables that
should have
been taken into consideration. The actual increases would be
closer (more
realistic) to 40-60HP...maybe.
Try to get your basic engine, and all the components (sensors
included),
working properly first before you dive into buying all the "Go
Fast
Goodies". It also helps to consult people who have had time to
experiment
with other combinations in a real world scenario. (Jules should
definitely
be included on that!)
Remember though: Everyone has a personal opinion on what worked
and what
didn't for their application and every manufacturer will tell
you that their
part is better and that they have proof.
Bernd D. Ratsch
Pflugerville, TX
bernd@texas.net
http://lonestar.texas.net/~bernd
"Gonna buy me a Dodge Truck and blow those Fords off the
road....."
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf Of
jim miller
> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 1999 8:36 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: Re: DML: r/t help
>
>
> Many aftermarket ignition mods do no good or actually reduce
the power
> output. Untill there is an internal mod for the stock
computer there is
> little that can be done to the electrical system
>
> Jason Jennings wrote:
>
> > What about using some type of ignition system thingy between
the PCM and
> > coil, say the Icon from Super Chips???? I hear you can
tweak your setup
> > after each major mod for great results????
> > for thoughts, comments, suggestions, and all around help on
the timing
> > on the R/T specifically. Unfortunately changing the timing,
which IS
> > needed, doesn't seem possable with any of the available bolt
on mods
> >
> > There are many parts you can bolt on to go faster, although
I
> > believe
> > > none of them actually have much value after the stock
computer
> > > recalibrates the new stuff to run like stock. I spend my
hard earned
> > > money to go faster, and don't actually see much
improvement in 1/4
> > > times. I have a JET II chip and 180 stat , electric fans,
> > > headers/y-pipe
> > > and a ported throttle body. About a grand in parts for
about 1.1
> > > second
> > > and 7mph in the 1/4. I would wait as long as it takes for
Mopar to
> > > release their performance computer for our trucks and
START from
> > > there.
> > > Stay tuned for 1/4 mile times, TX Motorplex opens 1st
weekend of FEB.
> > > Save your money for now. Alan S.
>
>
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