RE: Turbochargers

From: Mok, Alan (SPB) (AMok@spbank.com)
Date: Fri Jan 22 1999 - 01:00:19 EST


As far as blowers go, Vortech makes a number of different models and at the
top of the heap is one that can put out 25 psi on a V8. I think Paxton's
NOVI blower can be configured to do the same. To run 15+ psi you'll need
aluminum heads, forged rods/pistons.....

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jon Steiger [SMTP:stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu]
        Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 7:46 PM
        To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
        Subject: Re: DML: Turbochargers

        At 06:48 PM 1/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't think you'll be pushing 15-16PSi on a Magnum V8 unless you
have it
>forged everywhere and the compression ration is at about 8 to 1 .
Ours are
>at 9 to 1 right now I believe .

          Is PSI from a turbo the same as PSI from a blower? Seems to me
that
        a lot of those imports are running large amounts of boost with
turbos
        whereas blowers run a lot less. Just wondering if there was
something
        about turbo boost that made it safer to run more pressure than a
blower?

>
>I have heard good things about the VNT though , too bad Chrysler
sold the
>technology to Honda....those morons !
>
>When I talked to the guy today , he was talking about running a
single
>turbo with a wastegate . He said that twins wouldn't do much more
than a
>single and that I shouldn't run more than 5 or 6 PSI on the stock
motor
>unless I planned on doing some major internal mods .

           Don't be too sure... :-) The reason for running twin (or more)
        turbos isn't to increase pressure, but to reduce turbo lag. The
        smaller the turbo, the less time it takes to spool up. Using 2 5psi

        turbos will give you the same output as a single 10psi turbo, but
due to
        the reduced spool-up time, that power will come on a lot faster
        off the line.

          Plus, it seems to me that 2 turbos running at low pressure would
        outlive a single turbo running at twice the psi. If I were going
        to turbocharge my Dak I think a twin setup would almost be a
        must... There is the initial additional cost and the system
        complexity goes up a little, but lag reduction and turbo longevity
        are big plusses.

          Another issue with a turbo is an intercooler is practically a
must.
        Lots of heat. Also, a pre-oiler would be a good idea; one that will
        circulate engine oil 5 minutes or so after the engine has shut down.
        That'll help to cool the turbos down gradually and prevent coking.

          By the way, nitrous is supposed to work VERY well on turbocharged
        vehicles. It helps to cool that hot air as well as doing its
        usual job of increasing the oxygen density in the combustion
        chamber. Some of the imports use a little 25hp shot of nitrous
        off the line to eliminate turbo lag.

          Well, that's about the sum total of my turbo knowledge. :-)

          So... Who's gonna be the first, and can I drive your Dak when
its
        done? Or at least get a ride? :-)

                                                       -Jon-

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