Hmm....I thought all amps had voltage in (ah that stuff from the
battery), and some type of input for the stuff out of the radio???? I
thought radios only sent out voltage and current to drive speakers????
Whether that be in a nice RCA type of connection or the old fashion wire
it sucks to be me fashion??? I think on my old amp I had came with RCA
and standard cheezei type of connectors in, and then standard speaker
stuff out???? I have never tested nor thought much about the Magnitudes
of the V & I being driven out of a radio..... Does the MECP have the
average magnitudes going to the speaker from the radio and the radio/amp
setup???? I was under the impression as long as the infinity radio
pumped something out to a speaker.... You could slam that into an amp,
and run with it???? What would be special about pre-amped stuff????
Are there different voltage/current levels on the RCA stuff as opposed
to the stereo wire junk all radios have???? A signal is a signal,
radiation is radiation. I would be surprised to hear the pre-amp side
of a radio throws a better signal than the speaker wire side???? That
kind of says to me half my radio is lame the other half is good shit you
can only use when you have an amp???? Am I off base and dreaming
here???? Your radio produces a signal in the audible spectrum. It has
a certain gain/magnitude/intensity whatever associated with it. If the
signal is clean, hey hot damn, other wise distortion city.... The
cleanliness depends on the radios design..... What ever pops out should
be the same no matter how you connect it to the speakers, right???? It
is my understanding an amp is just another stage in the circuit
providing addition gain. Signal A enters the circuit, and out pops
signal B hopefully higher than A and still in the same wave form.....
SO, my question is why are there voltage differences here???? Out of
the radio should be out of the radio, correct???? I slept through most
of those EE course, cuz they bored me to death.... I always took the
basic, into the amp, make the circuit produced the right signal and
gain, pop out of the amp we come.... As you may have figured out by
now....I burnt tons of parts, and always had the roughest time with my
signals, hahahahaha.... Never went that extra mile to produce the
correct gains, boring, hahahaha.... I see now reason you couldn't take
any amp in the would and place it between your radio and the
speakers????
Jason
1/25/99 2:02 PM
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Guzinski [SMTP:m.gski@CWIX.com]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 1:13 PM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
The amp that I have does not have speaker level inputs it only
allows
200mv-5.0v(line level) thus if I use a speaker level output to
go directly
to the amp I need to have that reduced to somewhere between
200mv-5.0v..this
will add distortion. You cannot directly hook a speaker level
signal from a
head unit to the normal line level inputs on an amp....you will
fry your
amp. My question is....What is the output voltage supplied to
the speakers
and or amp from the back of the factory Infinity? If it uses a
outboard
amp, I would assume the output is somewhere btwn 200mv and
5.0v...is this
the case?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf Of
Peter
Anthony
Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 10:26 AM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
From: Peter Anthony on 01/25/99 12:26 PM
MECP = Mobile Electronics Certification Program
i also hold my MCSE and am currently working on CCNA.
jason @ spray-tech.com
01/25/99 12:01 PM
Please respond to dakota-truck@buffnet.net
To: dakota-truck @ buffnet.net
cc: (bcc: Peter Anthony/Physician Computer Network)
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
hahahahahaha.....I don't want your job, cuz I have to do it part
time
and hate it.... Our LAN and Wan is a head ache every day. I
did skip
over that gain point. I kind thought it was implied in the
distortion
comment. Couldn't you include volume and gain in the same
sentence as
interchangeable??? Isn't the volume a type of rheostat that
controls
the output levels of the internal amps??? Any given amp
(circuits not
that thing you use in your car for Mo Power) will have an output
defined
by its circuit design????? I thought the volume/gain just
controlled
what went into the circuit thus determining what is spit out of
the
circuit???? If you pump the gain up, then you start to distort
the
signal in, thus a bad signal now amplified shooting out???? I
used the
Max power less than speaker RMS, so I didn't receive any funny
spikes
that could cause damage.... I think most
home-do-it-yourself-ers match
max to max and push the envelope sometimes. Any how...What is a
MECP???
I know what MSCE, and MCE, CE, and all those other network
related mumbo
jumbos are.... I personally went for a CE/EE, but slept through
the EE
junk, man it was boring....hahahahahaha..... Never did care
much for
amps, rectifiers, bridges, band bass filters, and on, and on,
and on....
Although I loved feed back, all kinds, yeah Jimmy bring it home
baby,
hahahahaha..... Can you hear Jimmy???? hahahahahaha.....
Jason
1/25/99 11:56 AM
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Anthony [SMTP:panthony@pcn.com]
Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 11:29 AM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
From: Peter Anthony on 01/25/99 11:28 AM
Output level doesn't really matter, any of the decent amps
out
there today
have strong enough inputs to handle the new 4+ volt pre in.
Just set the input gains correctly and you can feed it a
CLEAN
Speaker
level.
FYI. I am a MECP Master installer, Just not working in that
industry any
more. I am now a network(Wan) Engineer.
m.gski @ cwix.com
01/25/99 11:05 AM
Please respond to dakota-truck@buffnet.net
To: dakota-truck @ buffnet.net
cc: (bcc: Peter Anthony/Physician Computer Network)
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
So, what you are saying in theory is.......The factory
Infinity
CD/Tape/AM/FM has line level outputs....I could run that
directly to an
amp.
Do we have any Mopar Service people out there to verify the
output level?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf
Of
Jason
Jennings
Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 8:01 AM
To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
The top end from Mopar is supposed to be amped already....
Or
at least
have a nicer built in stereo amp.... Either way someone is
more
than
willing to shoot me if I ever replace my factor system....
hahahahahahahaha..... It was one of the major selling
points of
the
car.... I can blast my beach boys and annoy all of the
local
bass
heads, hahahahaha.... I have already caught the attention
of
several
trying to figure me out. Number one sell point, the Solar
Yellow it is
painted, hehehehe....
Jason
1/25/99 10:03 AM
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Guzinski [SMTP:m.gski@CWIX.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 10:43 PM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
Alpine makes one I think. The factory Infinity is
pretty
good,
but it
doesn't have line level outputs for an amp, I am
thinking
about
running my
factory Infinity and putting on a speaker to line
level
converter if I can
find on that doesn't add too much distortion.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On
Behalf
Of
bnich@bellatlantic.net
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 8:27 PM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: Re: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
Michael Guzinski wrote:
>
> The 45 has 17wX4rms (35x4max) the 46 has 22wX4rms
(45x4max)
> the 45 has one set of pre-amp outs, the 46 has two
sets
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On
Behalf
Of
> bnich@bellatlantic.net
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 7:26 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: Pioneer Question
>
> Anyone know the difference between the DEH45 and
DEH46?
My
daughter just
> bought the 45 for her Neon. Bob Nichols
Thanks for the info Mike. Not ready for an amp as of
yet, I
was
just
wondering how much you wanted for it. I have to pick
up the
DEH
86 1st,
but gota finish my grill first. You know of anything
thats
as
good as
the 86 but can play tapes and CD's? Bob Nichols
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