Fwd: Re: Dual Filter Inquiry

From: Jason Yates (j_hurricane_y@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Mar 10 1999 - 01:30:40 EST


Here's the message I wrote to Turbo City and their reply regarding
their Dual Inlet Filter system
(http://www.turbocity.com/JeepDualAirFilter.htm). Since my first
posting on this subject, five people have shown interest in a group
buy. I think we need more people if we want to cut a deal, but as you
can read below, I'm still not sure exactly how many people. If there
are more people interested, email me (j_hurrricane_y@yahoo.com).
Otherwise, 180 bucks really doesn't seem that bad for cast aluminum.
A'ight, let me know what you think.

Later,
JY

PS What do they take me for? Some kind of idiot? I mean I guess his
analogy is somewhat valid regarding the shower drain, but it's really
more like a sewer system . . . . sorry, read on to figure out what I'm
babbling about.

---My message:
> >I am writing regarding your dual filter setup for Dodge 318's. I
have
> >a '98 Dakota 4x4 and have been researching the various options for
> >upgrading the intake system through the 500+ member Dakota Mailing
> >List (DML) and someone posted a message highlighting your website. I
> >have done some calculations that show your dual filter setup provides
> >more filter area than other types (cones and single 360-degree open
> >elements), which would indicate your setup is the best and I
certainly
> >like the way it looks. I have a few questions, though. Someone on
> >the DML brought up the point that the the turbulence caused by the
two
> >tubes coming together head-on at the TB might decrease
> >'breathability,' and counteract any benefits of having more filter
> >surface area. What are your opinions on this?

----Their response:
> Hi Jason,
>
> First of all, there is the laboratory and the real world. We
currently
> have over 300 of these air tubes in the field. To this day we have
only
> one person who was not happy with it, even though he agreed it gave
more
> power. In his case we took it back at full price. Initially,
before we
> had the big numbers, I personally called a number of users for their
> impressions. These comments are on the web page. With a recent
skeptic, I
> exchanged a number of emails. He finally bought and was the first to
> exclaim that it is much better than he could have imagined.
>
> Now in the theory world, first of all the air is being sucked in by
the
> intake at a reasonably strong vacuum. Because of the open element K&N
> filter, you have a very free flow condition. Now visualize the
drain at
> the bottom of your shower. If it were open without the grid, you'd
have
> water flowing from all directions, If it were only two, each flow
will
> spill into the drain and immediately drop down by gravity, and in
this case
> of the motor intake, by vacuum. In theory, there would be a little
> collision as they meet, but the path of least resistance would be
down into
> the throttle body.
>
> But, all said and done the winners are the ones that bolt on these
Dual
> Inlet Air Tubes, crank up their motors, and sail down the highways and
> inclines like they never did before.
>
-----My message continued:
> I can't tell from your
> >pictures, but are there 'air routing fins' or something inside of the
> >housing that sits on the TB to help counteract any turbulence? I
will
> >likely pass whatever answers you provide on to the DML and it may
sway
> >a few people to choose your product. As it is now, many expressed
> >interest in your product. Is there any chance we could get a group
> >discount if enough people purchased? How many would you need? Thank
> >you for your time and I look forward to hearing from you soon.

-----Their response continued:
> ANS: As you can appreciate by comparisons of similar but not
comparable
> items, this is a good value. This has been priced to be sold direct
to the
> end user without a middle man. This is how we keep the prices low.
Just
> for camp fire talk, how many folks might you get to join in a group
purchase?
>
> Let us know.
>
> Jea
>
>
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Jason Yates
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>

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