At 11:43 PM 11/15/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I recently bought a set of 24# injectors off of e-bay to replace my current
>24# injectors. The ones I got did not work, I would like to re-sell them,
>but I dont know what they are:
>New 24# injectors(blue body):
>F1T5-D5A
>0280150947
Mark
Kinsler Fuel Injection may be near your backyard and they have a
tremendous selection of injectors. They are also quite helpful people.
You can look them up at 1-248-362-1145 in Troy, Michigan.
Here are a some excerpts from past posts that I saved on fuel injectors.
There was a thread running on injectors the last two months of '98 and
the first few months of '99. Check the archives. There may be some
information there.
For the 5.2L, Siemens OGKA 53030262 216H ... (from Eric Kurtz, I think).
On my 98, there is a port on the fuel rail (drivers side) just in front of
where the fuel line attaches. This is where we have been measuring the fuel
pressure during the dyno pulls. With the larger injectors (270 cc) installed
in my truck, after a reset of the computer, the truck runs rich under hard
pulls 12:1 air/fuel ratio. After about 250 miles and approx. 10 drive
cycles, the truck leans out under WOT (14:1 air/fuel ratio). The computer
learns and adjusts to the new injectors. One of the thoughts that we had was
only increasing fuel pressure under WOT. That way, the computer could adapt,
but we would fool it under WOT conditions. Thoughts were an FMU and a boost
pump similar the ones sold with the supercharger kits or an additional
injector triggered off of the MAP or TPS (Bruces idea). We haven't worked
through it yet. I would really like to hear from some of the other people
who have played injector pressure and how they went about making their
changes....Frank Holloway
They seem to be fine. Im sure using a lot more gas! I bought them from
one of the guys on the list and he sent me via email this info on them.
Honestly, doesnt mean much to me! Im injector illiterate. All I know is it
feels good!
Injector type Sat14.5ohm
Bosch, part #0280150945
Test pulse 6.0 ms
Test pressure 43.0 psi
Gravity weight 0.77
Volume 97.2-98.2 cc of fuel per minute
... Eric Kurtz
The computer will never know it has bigger injectors (if they really are
bigger) and neither will you in about 150 miles after installing them... The
truck's OBDII compensates nicely (Im running 270cc lucas injectors and once
the computer learns, the pulse width drops...) The Throttle bodys are
basically identical and no gains can be found through swapping. suggest
porting the 97 ram TB for improved performance and leaving the injectors
alone unless your looking at supercharging or big mods in the future! My
.02 ... Bruce Bridges
Here's a list for Ford injectors that I copied from the DIY_EFI list:
Flow PSI Resist Mfg. Part Color Application
1.76 (14) ?? 2.25 Bosch E3EE-BA Blue 1983 1.6L
1.76 (14) ?? 2.35 ND E4EE-AA Blue 1984 1.6L
1.76 (14) 30 16.20 ND E59E-AB Gray 1985-6 2.3L Truck, 5.0L SEFI
1.76 (14) 33 14.50 Bosch E67C-AB Gray 1986 2.9L, 3.0L
1.76 (14) 33 14.50 Bosch E67E-BB Gray 1986 5.0L SEFI
2.45 (19) 40 2.25 Bosch E6EE-AB White 1985-6 1.9L
2.45 (19) 32 16.20 ND E6TE-AB Gold 1986 5.0L HO SEFI
2.45 (19) 33 16.20 DKK E5TE-AB Gold 1985-6 5.0L Truck
2.45 (19) 33 14.50 Bosch E5TE-BB Gold 1986 5.8L Truck
3.00 (23) ?? 2.40 Bosch E4EX-AA Black 1984-5 1.6L Turbo
3.86 (30) 35-45 2.40 Bosch E3ZE-BA Green 1983 2.3L Turbo
3.86 (30) 35-45 2.35 DKK E4ZE-AA Green 1984 2.3L Turbo
4.41 (35) 35-45 2.35 DKK E5ZE-AB Gold 1985-6 2.3L Turbo
4.54 (37) 40 2.25 Bosch E3VE-A1A Green 1984-6 3.8L CFI
4.54 (37) 40 2.0 ND E3VE-A2A Green 1984-6 3.8L CFI
5.81 (46) 33 2.40 Bosch EOSE-A1A Blue 1980-3 5.0L CFI
5.81 (46) 33 2.00 ND EOSE-A2A Blue 1983-4 5.0L CFI
5.81 (46) 33 2.25 Bosch EOSE-A1A Blue 1984 5.0L CFI
6.60 (52) 32 2.25 Bosch E4ZE-CA Gray 1984-5 5.0L HO CFI
7.00 (56) 16 1.40 Bosch E43E-AC Blue 1985-6 2.3L HSC
8.00 (64) 16 1.40 Bosch E53E-AB Green 1985-6 2.3L HO HSC, 2.5L HSC
The flow rate is gm/sec and lb/hr in parenthesis. The resistance is obvious.
The manufacturer is next, I think ND is Nippondeso (sp?), I can't place DKK.
The part number is constructed as follows. All injectors carry a basic part
number 9F593, which is prefixed with a production release, and followed by
a revision/application code. For example E3EE-BA from the table will be
E3EE-9F593-BA to your local dealer. The tops of the injectors are color
coded, as a quick check to the technician to make sure an engine contains the
"same" injectors. I included some sample applications which may help the
dealer if you are buying new, or yourself if scrounging in a junk yard.
I don't know what was used for the density of the fuel. I typically use
0.79 (rounded up to 0.8 for "quickie" calculations). ... unknown
Mark, I think what caused your problem was that the injector winding
on the 24# that you bought was not compatible with the driver in the
computer. A driver circuit turns the injector on and off. Most
domestic engines use high-impedance injectors (12-14 ohms) while
some of the larger replacement injectors may be in the 2-4 ohms range.
Since the amount of fuel the engine needs to produce 1 hp is determined
by its brake specific fuel consumption (BSFC), and most late-style
engins have a BSFC of 0.5 or lower (i.e. 1/2 pound of fuel or less to
produce 1 hp), a factory injector can support more power than you'd
think. Whenever larger injectors are installed, the engine calibration
must be changed to match the pulse width issued to the engine's needs.
Sorry for the length ... hope you find something in all of this.
Bob
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