Re: V6 Supercharger (ATTN: Dester)

From: nosdakota (nosdakota@email.msn.com)
Date: Thu Dec 09 1999 - 21:24:58 EST


Actually those turbos were used to run the 2.2 and 2.5 engines and the ones
with the .63 AR housings were capable of producing up to 30 lbs of boost in
that application. I don't think they would have a problem pushing 25 lbs on
a 5.2
Joe W.
87 Shelby Charger 13.9
98 Dakota 13.1

----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: DML: V6 Supercharger (ATTN: Dester)

>
>
> On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 DICEMAN469@aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 12/9/99 12:55:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > Dester223@aol.com writes:
> >
> > > Hey. How did you get Twin Turbos on there? Another DMLer told me i
should
> > > gut 2 turbos off a old Daytonas and turn the manifolds around so they
>
>
> Speaking of which, would those be big enough for our trucks? The
> displacement on those cars was about 2.0-2.2l, right? So, if you had 2
> of 'em, I would assume that you'd be able to feed 4.0-4.4l, which still
> isn't 5.2l... Wouldn't those turbos choke down the engine somewhat at
the
> top end?
>
>
> > point
> > > towards the front of the engine. Could you please tell me how you
hooked
> > > yours up? I want an 11s dakota too! ! ! i have a 97 cc v6 auto
with a
> > few
> > >
> > > mods. Hell. I won't be greedy. 12 or 13s dakota would be cool with
me. I
> > > gotta whoop up on these damn 5.0 mustang boyz and 89 iroc-z cameros!
> > > -Dester
> >
> > Get a supercharger. Nick ran those times with a supercharger (the one I
> > bought off of him, I might add) As well as one hell of a shot of N20!!
Twin
> > turbos would be fun, but do you really want to go through all that
trouble??
>
>
> Heck yeah. ;-)
>
>
> > You have to buy 2 turbos, build custom headers, custom make an
intercooler,
> > gotta worry about clearance and heat problems, custom exhaust running
all the
> > way back, among numerous other things. And it will cost you a fortune.
The
> > supercharger will bolt right on with minimal modification, comes with
> > everything you need, and installs in about 6-8 hours. Not onlythat but
you
> > have no turbo lag, and you have less parts, making it more reliable. I
have a
> > powerdyne kit but vortech makes them too. Just buy a kit for a V8...all
the
> > brackets and everything are exactly the same. My truck now runs low to
mid
> > 14's (feels like it anywayz, need to get to the track to confirm this)
>
>
> There are pros and cons to everything. I can't believe I'm about to
> tell 700+ people this, but a couple of weeks ago, I bought a copy of
> 5.0 magazine. They had a turbocharger theme, and I figured I might learn
> something, what with the similar displacement v8 that the mustang has.
> Anyway, there are comparisons to nitrous and superchargers and such in
> there, and according to them, heat really isn't an issue. Whenever
> you compress air, you generate heat. According to them, superchargers can
> actually generate *more* heat than turbochargers. They also mention that
> turbos are generally a bit easier on the engine since they don't "hit"
> as hard. Lag shouldn't really be a problem on a twin turbo setup. If
> it is, you could always use the turbo'd riceburner trick of a small shot
> of nitrous off the line until they spool up. Anyway, like I said, there
> are pros and cons to everything. No doubt the supercharged route would
> be easier, but for me, a part of the fun is in taking the road less
> travelled by; that's a part of the reason I bought a Dakota in the first
> place. If I wanted a cookie cutter truck that just about everyone else
> had, I would've bought a chevy. Plus, I like how the turbo doesn't
> rob as much top end power, and the fact that you can just tool down
> the road at low rpm, getting great gas mileage whereas a blower
> would probably be making a lot of torque down there... I used to get
> 25-30mpg in my VR-4, but the power was always there when I needed it.
> As far as cost goes, I've seen some web sites selling remanufactured
> turbos for $300-600. I've also seen some web pages where people have put
> together very fast cars for very cheap. The guy with the twin turbo'd
> 351 thunderbird then capri come into mind. He's running in the 10s and
> 11s on chicken feed! (I think it was $5,000, *including* the car and the
> engine!) Granted, I'm not yet as knowledgeable as I hope to be, but
> from what I've seen so far, turbos just strike me as "the right thing".
:-)
>
> YMMV, and actually, by all means, please *do* go the supercharged route;
> if everyone installs turbos, then I'll just be another cookie cutter
> sheep, and I hate that. :-)
>
> -Jon-
>
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