On Thu, 9 Dec 1999 DICEMAN469@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 12/9/99 12:55:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> Dester223@aol.com writes:
>
> > Hey. How did you get Twin Turbos on there? Another DMLer told me i should
> > gut 2 turbos off a old Daytonas and turn the manifolds around so they
Speaking of which, would those be big enough for our trucks? The
displacement on those cars was about 2.0-2.2l, right? So, if you had 2
of 'em, I would assume that you'd be able to feed 4.0-4.4l, which still
isn't 5.2l... Wouldn't those turbos choke down the engine somewhat at the
top end?
> point
> > towards the front of the engine. Could you please tell me how you hooked
> > yours up? I want an 11s dakota too! ! ! i have a 97 cc v6 auto with a
> few
> >
> > mods. Hell. I won't be greedy. 12 or 13s dakota would be cool with me. I
> > gotta whoop up on these damn 5.0 mustang boyz and 89 iroc-z cameros!
> > -Dester
>
> Get a supercharger. Nick ran those times with a supercharger (the one I
> bought off of him, I might add) As well as one hell of a shot of N20!! Twin
> turbos would be fun, but do you really want to go through all that trouble??
Heck yeah. ;-)
> You have to buy 2 turbos, build custom headers, custom make an intercooler,
> gotta worry about clearance and heat problems, custom exhaust running all the
> way back, among numerous other things. And it will cost you a fortune. The
> supercharger will bolt right on with minimal modification, comes with
> everything you need, and installs in about 6-8 hours. Not onlythat but you
> have no turbo lag, and you have less parts, making it more reliable. I have a
> powerdyne kit but vortech makes them too. Just buy a kit for a V8...all the
> brackets and everything are exactly the same. My truck now runs low to mid
> 14's (feels like it anywayz, need to get to the track to confirm this)
There are pros and cons to everything. I can't believe I'm about to
tell 700+ people this, but a couple of weeks ago, I bought a copy of
5.0 magazine. They had a turbocharger theme, and I figured I might learn
something, what with the similar displacement v8 that the mustang has.
Anyway, there are comparisons to nitrous and superchargers and such in
there, and according to them, heat really isn't an issue. Whenever
you compress air, you generate heat. According to them, superchargers can
actually generate *more* heat than turbochargers. They also mention that
turbos are generally a bit easier on the engine since they don't "hit"
as hard. Lag shouldn't really be a problem on a twin turbo setup. If
it is, you could always use the turbo'd riceburner trick of a small shot
of nitrous off the line until they spool up. Anyway, like I said, there
are pros and cons to everything. No doubt the supercharged route would
be easier, but for me, a part of the fun is in taking the road less
travelled by; that's a part of the reason I bought a Dakota in the first
place. If I wanted a cookie cutter truck that just about everyone else
had, I would've bought a chevy. Plus, I like how the turbo doesn't
rob as much top end power, and the fact that you can just tool down
the road at low rpm, getting great gas mileage whereas a blower
would probably be making a lot of torque down there... I used to get
25-30mpg in my VR-4, but the power was always there when I needed it.
As far as cost goes, I've seen some web sites selling remanufactured
turbos for $300-600. I've also seen some web pages where people have put
together very fast cars for very cheap. The guy with the twin turbo'd
351 thunderbird then capri come into mind. He's running in the 10s and
11s on chicken feed! (I think it was $5,000, *including* the car and the
engine!) Granted, I'm not yet as knowledgeable as I hope to be, but
from what I've seen so far, turbos just strike me as "the right thing". :-)
YMMV, and actually, by all means, please *do* go the supercharged route;
if everyone installs turbos, then I'll just be another cookie cutter
sheep, and I hate that. :-)
-Jon-
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