Re: RE: Dealer wants to flash PCM, can't tell me why

From: Chad Clifton (chadofile@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Sep 25 2000 - 18:43:58 EDT


They have offered atleast one flash for '95 V6 Daks
PCM's(maybe v8's too, don't know) back in '97, because
it has been done to my dak. It happened before I got
my Dakota, but I was told about it and there is a
sticker on the underside of the hood telling the date,
time, update code, etc.... It had something to do with
cold starting and hesitation problems I think. There
is a TSB on it.

That was in '97 though.

Chad

--- brian.duffey@intelsat.int wrote:
> Jason,
>
> I've never heard of any flash-fixes on the OBDII
> Daks computers, much less
> the 95's (which I also have). What could they be
> 'fixing'? These were the
> best year Dakotas ever built!
>
> Seriously though, I agree with your thinking, unless
> they can tell you what
> they are 'fixing', keep them the he!! away from your
> Dak. Like they, say,
> "If it ain't broke...".
> (Unless of course it is the programming from the
> Mopar HiPo SBEC for your
> Dak they're offering to flash to your stock
> controller!?)
>
>
> Duff
> '95 SLT 4x4 CC 318 4spd/OD - 3.55 LSD
> MSD 6AL - MSD Blaster Coil
> MSD 8.5 wires - K&N FIPK - F&B Stage I TBI
> Mopar HiPo SBEC - Thorley Headers - Gibson Catback
> Exhaust
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Bleazard [mailto:drazaelb@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:24 AM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: Dealer wants to flash PCM, can't tell
> me why
>
>
> So I had our "5 star" dealer do a "performance
> inspection" over the
> weekend. It's a fairly cheap service they offer
> (they make their
> money on the secondary stuff they convince people to
> have done), and
> I was curious to see what, if anything, they might
> find.
>
> What a waste of time. They told me:
> - I need a fuel injector flush (I've got a bottle of
> injector cleaner
> behind the seat)
>
> - I need a tune up (I think they always say this,
> I'm planning on
> doing it anyway)
>
> - I need a new PCM flash from Chrysler.
>
> This last item was the interesting one. I asked,
> "why?"
>
> "Because there's a new program for it," was what
> they told me.
>
> "What's it change?"
>
> "We don't know, it just came from Chrysler. The
> told us it's
> 'better'."
>
> "I know there's a fix out there for pinging that
> retards the timing
> by four degrees, is that what this is?"
>
> "We've never heard of a pinging problem."
>
> I really hate talking to service advisors, these
> guys don't know a
> throttle body apart from a cupholder.
>
> I told them that I didn't want it anywhere near my
> truck until they
> could tell me what changes it made and why. Even if
> I don't fully
> understand the engineering, I want to make sure they
> know what
> they're doing before they're doing it. Especially
> since they wanted
> to charge me $80 to do it.
>
> Anyone out there have any idea what this might be?
> It's for the '95
> (specs in my sig line).
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> =====
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>
---------------------------------------------------------
>
> Jason Bleazard http://www.bleazard.net Toronto,
> Ontario
> his: '95 Dakota Sport 4x4, 239 V6, 5spd, Reg. Cab,
> white
> hers: '98 Dakota Sport 4x4, 318 V8, Auto, Club Cab,
> black
>
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