WEll I am running 92, and it still pings.... I am soo happy... after 6
months of being un-registered the badboy is LEGAL again =) My bad, I guess I
just didnt realize my stickers said april =) HEHEH
Would retarding the timing (pcm flash) KILL performance? I dont race this
thing... as long as it sounds good and looks good, and has REASONABLE power
for a 3.9l v6 =)
Wes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Levy" <andylevy@bigfoot.com>
To: <dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 6.22 P
Subject: Re: DML: HAHAH dodge dealers are clueless!!
> WATCH OUT!
>
> You know that sheet you sign when you hand the truck over to the service
> department? It authorizes them to perform ANY work that Chrysler
> recommends through TSBs, etc. without having to ask you for approval.
> Basically, if you bring it in, they can do anything they want to it.
>
> You can try talking to the service manager, and put in writing that you
> do not authorize any reprogramming of the PCM, but I don't know how much
> luck you'll have.
>
> AFAIK, no dealer knows what the flash actually does. Chrysler beams it
> down and that's that. They don't provide any information, and the techs
> don't have the tools or knowledge to read the actual code.
>
> I have seen nothing to indicate that the flash fixed the ping on my
> truck.
>
> I just went through all this (have you seen my post?). Basically, if
> you can avoid having the PCM flash done, get the intake manifold checked
> for leaks, have the spark plug wire reroute TSB done (number is in my
> post from last night), have them check the sync on the distributor, then
> get the **** out of Dodge (no pun intended). At that point, the
> dealer's done all they can do (and will do) short of the flash. If that
> doesn't cure it, it's time to take matters into your own hands. Colder
> plugs, MAP sensor, 180 t-stat. If all that doesn't work, you 'll likely
> be stuck with 89 octane unless you go for the flash.
>
> Wes Weems wrote:
> >
> > Oh man you guys should have heard this convo
> >
> > I called another dodge dealer cause the first was clueless about the
pinging
> > problem. The second one told me "Autolite plugs are primarily for ford
> > vehicles" and he recommended I use champion plugs. He also told me 180
> > degree stat is HIGHLY not recommended... seems like he totally went
against
> > everythign I've seen here on the list. Well.. they recommended that I
get a
> > flash on my puter, and I aked them "will this retard my timing by 4
> > degrees?" and he says well it may, but it will stop your truck from
pinging.
> > What the funky... I got an appt for monday at 9:15 at one dealer, and
> > wednesday afternoon time at another. I am gonna tell em straight up, no
> > puter flashes without my approval. Will a timing retard, cause a big
diff in
> > performance? I personally think its a map sensor... but I've been wrong
> > before.
> >
> > Wes
>
> --
> -andy
>
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