Please tell me you didn't just try to say the Lightning or Sy/Tys have no
issues! Come on! The SY/Tys are even a joke within a joke when talking to
Lightning owners! Hehehehe. We joke about always having a tow hitch with us
if heir's a Sy/Ty at the track......LOL
-Ryan
99 DA RC R/T
----- Original Message -----
From: Nicholas Horton <nhorton@reliacom.com>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
> And where are you getting that slanderous amount of information? I've not
> heard of any problems with the syty's or the lightning. Also, keep in
mind
> that 27k for the syty's THEN would be more than the lightning costs now if
> you factor inflation. Ah well. All I care about is speed. And the
> lightning has it, plus lots of potential to increase it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan Stewart [mailto:firebird@kymtnnet.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:21 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
>
>
> No, OK, most dealers actually charge at LEAST 2k markup. Making the price
at
> least 3k. And for the most part, 14.0 to 14.2 is the average bone stock
time
> of a Lightning. Check out nloc.org and f150online.com as this is where I
get
> my info. Sorry, that numbers far from impressive for it's price. Slightly
> more impressive is the Syclone which cost 27k but pulled of low 13s bone
> stock. Too bad they are heaping piles of junk. :) And these days, it's
> starting to appear the new Lightnings are just as much pieces of junk. :-(
>
> -Ryan
> 99 DA RC R/T
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stlaurent Mr Steven <STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil>
> To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 5:25 PM
> Subject: RE: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
>
>
> > You mean the upper to mid 13s for a 33K truck. No pun intended.
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Steven St.Laurent
> > Test Engineer
> > Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
> > MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
> > 760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
> > Work:mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
> > Home:mailto:saint1958@home.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ryan Stewart [mailto:firebird@kymtnnet.org]
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:31 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
> >
> > Whoa there Bernd! First off, Sean is correct, nothing is amazing about a
> > truck with a friggin supercharger running low 14s.... I mean, c'mon,
just
> > this weekend Charles Smith ran faster than 80% of stock Lightnings with
> > $1900 in mods NATURALLY ASPIRATED!!! THAT actually makes the Lightning
> seem
> > kinda, um, well, UNimpressive.
> >
> > Second, originally anyhow, I was talking about compact/midsize trucks as
> the
> > thread was about S10s.
> >
> > Sorry if I seemed to flame a little, but I get tired of people telling
me
> > how incredible it is to pay $35000 for a 2WD Supercharged truck that
does
> > friggin low 14s..... It's actually pretty pitiful......
> >
> > -Ryan
> > 99 DA RC R/T
> > Paid 16500. Gimme 2100 and I'll take out any stock Lightning for under
> 20k.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Sean Bruckman <bruckman@urisp.com>
> > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 4:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
> >
> >
> > > I think what needs to be said here is that:
> > >
> > > 1) the lightning is faster, but no breakthrough! it's supercharged and
> > > therefore not in the same catagory. just because it's supercharged
> doesn't
> > > make it a better engine. there is nothing, i repeat, nothing special
> about
> > > the lightning. take a look at the 300M "Special" concept that cranks
300
> > hp
> > > and 290+ lb.ft. of torque N/A out of a 3.5L V6. THAT is something
> > special.
> > > (the lightning would have to produce 463hp on premium gas WITHOUT the
> > > supercharger/intercooler to achieve that specific output)
> > >
> > > 2) Ryan is right, the 4.7 and 5.7 are amazing high-tech engines. so,
> they
> > > are better engines. so, dodge is ahead.
> > >
> > > 3) the s-10 is lighter, and a more favorable power-to-weight ratio.
> > > unfortunately for your argument we're talking about the next-gen s10,
> > which
> > > is a midsize truck and about the same weight as us, theoretically.
> > >
> > > So what i'm saying is, when the unibody, next-gen S-10 with a 4.8L V8
> > comes
> > > out, we will still be dusting them in HO 4.7L's with 325 horse, stock.
> > >
> > > Sean Bruckman
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <bernd@texas.net>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 8:23 AM
> > > Subject: Re: DML: Re: new 270hp S-10
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Exactly right.
> > > >
> > > > - Bernd
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I agree. I mean, I would like to think that Mopar will step up to
> the
> > > plate
> > > > once
> > > > > again, but don't discount the GM just because we have a V8 and
ours
> > will
> > > be
> > > > newer
> > > > > and probably have more HP. Yo guys ever hear of "POwer-To-Weight
> > Ratio"?
> > > It
> > > > doesn't
> > > > > take a rocket scientist to figure out that the S-Trucks are
lighter
> > than
> > > the
> > > > Daks.
> > > > >
> > > > > bernd@texas.net wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Not to defend "the other guys" here...but you stated "Chevy and
> Ford
> > > are
> > > > always
> > > > > > one step BEHIND."...explain the Lightning. You know...the truck
> > that,
> > > in
> > > > > > factory form, can take most of our modified trucks and chew them
> up
> > > for
> > > > > > breakfast.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We spend thousands of dollars on modifications (Superchargers,
> > > Headers,
> > > > > > Nitrous, Throttle Bodies, Cams, M1's, etc...) and all they have
to
> > do
> > > to hit
> > > > > > the 12's is a simple air cleaner/mass airflow change and a
> > > "chip"...for no
> > > > more
> > > > > > than $500 in some cases.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, i'm not trying to defend them...but we need to be a
little
> > bit
> > > more
> > > > > > careful about what we say about the competition.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Bernd
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yep, but when this comes out it will be too little, too late,
as
> a
> > > new
> > > > > > > series of V8s (hemis) will already be in the
> Dakotas........Chevy
> > > and Ford
> > > > > > > are always one step BEHIND. :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Ryan
> > > > > > > 99 DA RC R/T
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: <Y2KDakuda@aol.com>
> > > > > > > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>; <STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 12:57 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: DML: new 270hp S-10
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://pickuptruck.com/html/future/chevrolet/sseries.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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