Hmm, ya know this guy goes to Byron Dragway according to his webpage. Wonder
if we could get him to show for the R/T VS. SVT Meet then some DMLers could
examine it?
-Ryan
99 DA RC R/T
It'd be cool to watch a lil Neon smoke every Cobra and Lightning there. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: Stlaurent Mr Steven <STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 3:32 PM
Subject: DML: RE: Re: Sub 12 Neon Turbo-Truth or Facts
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 8:23 AM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: Re: Sub 12 Neon Turbo-Truth or Facts
>
> You know, it wouldn't hurt to READ the webpage and get the facts straight
> before going on and on.
>
> 600 pounds difference. Lets do the math.
>
> Viper 3300 pounds
> This neon 2400 pounds
> Difference of 900 pounds.
>
> Now, you can argue that 300 pounds isn't that big of a deal, but we are
> talking about over 10% difference in weight. That makes a big difference.
>
> Boost. Nobody said he was running 10PSI. He WAS running 10 PSI when he
was
> doing the Stage II system. Now, with the Stage 3 system, they are running
> higher. They didn't say how high, but higher never the less.
>
> He SAID that they were running on the bottle, and figured 100HP from that
> alone.
>
> Having been around Neons since '96, I've seen many people get close to 200
> HP (crankshaft) out of Neons w/o turbo. Being a 8-10PSI turbo can get
> another 125-150 HP out of those engines, without touching the insides, you
> are in the 300+ range. Not that difficult. (I have a friend that run's
285
> on his daily driver, that's dyno'd) I've seen quite a few Neons run in
the
> 13's. It's not that hard to see this neon running these times. They are
> not the only people doing it.
>
> But, you would have seen most of these facts if you have read the webpage.
> But why argue the point, the video doesn't lie.
>
> THOUGHTS ON YOUR POSTING:
>
>
> >Yea! Maybe smell something funny coming from the exhaust system under WOT
> doing 13s. This is a three second drop from stock power. Then adding
> additional three more seconds for the 1/4 mile drop? I just bite it for
> what it worth. Alternatively, run a few times and stress the motor
> completely out until the heads creak, drive gears snaps, or where the weak
> point is.
>
> >PT Cruiser with a Whipple root blower with few other goodies produced
only
> 215-220 and other few goodies. That is a mere 50 percent increase. The
> Neon SRT turbo was similar with the Chrysler prototype and you said what
and
> the gains are almost the same here. You are claiming what? 285HP? Dream
> again. Increasing the pressure for the dyno only but not running on the
> street. Sound more like the ricers who bring there supra and increased
the
> pressure on the turbo for that 30-second run. Then when it time for the
> street turns it down for safety reasons. That is not streetable power.
> Reminds me of the 653HP twin turbo Supra. Try driving that
everyday...Then
> even a Dakota 5.9 with a 12PSI blower pushes only 376rwhp and that is
> stressing the motor.
>
> >Look...if this was possible I would opt to purchase one and have twin
> Garret Turbo unit sitting on the car right now.
>
> >Getting 200HP of the Neon stock motor without turbo? Dream on! Which
dyno
> unit was running on? Where was it located?
>
> >To bad, you did not live on the west coast I would love have the car
> examined by a professional engineer to see what is really cooking under
the
> hood. Since it only 132HP stock, then subtract a minimal 15 percent HP
lost
> (generize with the lost) in the drive train, what do you have? Now add a
> K&N, exhausts, and just doesn't make up the differences of 90HP? That one
> magical K&N intake system produces some outrages numbers.
>
> >The video, my man, does not tell you anything, especially what is under
the
> hood.
>
> >Then let me run my Dakota with a 125HP NOS and see it run in the 12s.
> Maybe a few runs before POOOOOOOFFFFF!!
> -------------------------------------------
> Steven St.Laurent
> Test Engineer
> Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
> MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
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