for all these people talking about Mopar Nats 2000. Why wern't you at
outback on Friday with the lonely 4 DMLers. Oh yea and we got there and sat
down in 5 minutes even though there was an 2 hour wait (conections). What
do you think about those beans. Now do i hear more people coming out next
year! Come on its a great time...
We are talking about grabing a spots right off of Brice RD and having a BBQ
while watching all the burnouts
Tim Althoff
http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/yllw/dkta.html
99 Solar Yellow RC V-6 Manual
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net]On Behalf Of Sevrence, Sean
(S.J.)
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 7:55 AM
To: 'dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET'
Subject: DML: RE: Sub 12 Neon Turbo-Truth or Facts
I wonder if this is one of those Neon LTs (all aluminum)? This would drop
the weight down to around the 2K mark. I read about these but did not know
if they went into production. I am not sure the Viper had a "good" run, but
I would like to ride in that neon! ;P
Sean
'92 Sport 3.9L 5sp - 250,000mi!
'01 CC SLT+ 4.7L 5sp LSD!
-----Original Message-----
From: Stlaurent Mr Steven [mailto:STLAURENTS@mctssa.usmc.mil]
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 10:21 AM
To: 'dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET'
Subject: DML: Sub 12 Neon Turbo-Truth or Facts
Since most Neon run into 16.xx on the average for the 1/4 mile, I cannot see
even with a 8PSI Turbo unit, which is a safe zone for the drive train and
engine components to outrun even a stock Viper. The Viper GTS runs
12.2-12.4 in the 1/4 mile on stock drive train. Now you see my point.
Since I have seen the numbers for a Whipple SC Neon motor, the 1/4 mile
times doesn't match with this comparo. Ryan, even with a 6 or 8PSI, you
will only get around 200-215HP at the front drive train and no more. With
this in mind, the Neon is only going to produce around a low 15 or high 14
at the most depending on which tires the dude is running. Then add a few
other extras, he may make it into the low 14. Even comparing weight of a
mere 600 lbs difference is not going to help the Neon.
What I am seeing here is 16PSI or better and plus some other stuff keep it
from failing on the street or strip while running below the 12.x range.
Maybe a bottle on top a turbo. There is no way...no way he running
something that low and beating a Viper GTS. If he were, I would opt to buy
a Neon and load it. To much money in investing into the Neon to keep the
car together for both street and strip.
What he saying and what is reality is another story.
-------------------------------------------
Steven St.Laurent
Test Engineer
Test Branch, GSD, MCTSSA
MARCORSYSCOM, USMC
760-725-2506 (DSN 365-2506)
Work:mailto:stlaurents@mctssa.usmc.mil
Home:mailto:saint1958@home.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Stewart [mailto:firebird@kymtnnet.org]
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 7:45 PM
To: dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
Subject: DML: Re: RE: Neon Vs Viper GTS
The Neon is treet driven 160 miles tot he track and is otherwise driven on
the street. Their site does't mention any engine failures.
-Ryan
99 DA RC R/T
Looks purdy solid.
----- Original Message -----
From: Steven St.Laurent <saint1958@home.com>
To: <dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 9:10 PM
Subject: DML: RE: Neon Vs Viper GTS
> Your point is?
>
> Like most 23PSI blown ricer cars, good for a few runs for blowing either
the
> top or bottom end. But using the same logic, let add the same to a GTS
car
> and race it again with the Neon. Now we have 900 to 1200HP. Who do you
> think will win?
>
> Yet, we all know the Neon has no power under stock with a 150HP but the
GTS
> does with 450HP (with 3.08:1 gears).
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Steven St.Laurent
> 2000 Dakota 4.7 Hemi (beta I testing)
> 1999 Chevy (gone in 2003)
> 1993 Tracker (still going...going)
> 2000 Roush Mustang Stage II (sold) TT
> ----------->:)
> Aspiring for the next toys:
> 2003 Dakota Hemi R/T
> 2003 GTS-R Viper
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET]On Behalf Of Ryan Stewart
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2000 8:53 PM
> To: dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
> Subject: DML: Neon Vs Viper GTS
>
> Per about 50 people's request, here is the video of the Neon obliterating
> the Viper GTS. ENJOY!
>
> http://www.dodgertclub.com/movies/lenkillviper00.mpeg
>
>
> -Ryan
> 99 DA RC R/T
> Hate to meet up with that thing on the street..... No, not the Viper, the
> NEON! Hehehehe. :)
>
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