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From: owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET]On Behalf Of Jayson Woodruff
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 8:15 PM
To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
Subject: Re: DML: SS S-10 Ssspank!!!
Did the RT change in '00? I don't think I've seen an '00 stock RT at the
track,
but now we're getting real specific. But that's the same reason you don't
see
very many 4.7L RC 5spds, they're not that common so it's hard to prove
numbers.
Traction shouldn't be a discriminator, we're talking the same truck here.
(3.92
gears cost a wapping $40 as an option)
>>>>Too true. 00 R/Ts got smaller pullies, electric fan, larger injectors,
possible change in the exhaustsystem,all i now >>>> for sure there is that
the muffler is different. ther than that they got a much better gear
selector indicator and >>>> better cupholders (like all 00 daks there).
If I remember right we were comparing 5spd to auto. Not fair for sure, but
that's what we were talking. A 4.7L auto will likely be slower than the
same
5.9. The 4.7 auto isn't much of a performance trans.
>>>> My point was the5 speedisnot actually fater but just as fast, and even
though it's cheaper, ou lose a lot. i think on >>>> the seet the manual
trans would save 700.
Have you been in a hotchkis truck? If handling is important to you and have
the
money I'm sure you'd drop the RT suspension in a hurry.
>>> Sure the Hotchkis s better, like the mopar headers are better than the
stock 5.9 manifolds, the Mpar PCM is beter than >>>> the stock PCM, but
those all cost a LOT extra and you have to get them put on. my point is
what comes stock and stock >>>> the R/t suspesion package is TONS better.
And what abutthe 17 inch rims?.
Who brought up fords? I must have missed it. A guy who works a few cubes
over
bought a '99 lightning this year, so far in 6 months he's needed 2 new
superchargers and a new engine. It's 2001 fast now, but it keeps breaking
hehe. And he said the dealer wanted 47K for an '01 Lightning, sh*t howdy
that's
a lot.
>>>> i'll admit i was getting int past conversations there that reminded me
of this. the urple R/t shoud be walking withnew >>>> lightnings, if not all
over them :) I wil never own another Ford because of their "greatcustomer
service ad awesome >>>> quality" ROFL!! uttig down the brand Xers,
especially Ferds, that's what i'm talkin' about hehe.
>>>> Brian
Jay W
Brian Stewart wrote:
> kay, yes, most 98-99s are running low 15s, because of tracton. i've seen
> ones that have mastered traction and they run 14s. 00-01s are capableor
14s
> without much skill at all, they are amazingly quicker than the 98-99
models
> and considering the 4.7 has only been offered 00-01 in the Dak, i think
that
> is whatshould be compared. i don't care if the hotchkis is better, fact
is
> what you get FROM THE FACTORY IS BETTER ON THE R/T. Lets say you get the
> hotchkis, that's 900 dollars, anoter 500+ for istallation. 1000+ for
> comparable wheels, and flares, what 200 a set? That's 2600 right there.
> FYI, i just priced out Dakotas with my dealer. Both regular cabs, both
with
> automatics. CD and power convienence groupe added to both. added to
both,
> Posi, cruise, leather wheel added to the 4.7. Price including
destination,
> tax/title/license forthe 4.7 was 18900, that didn't include 3.92 gears
> either. Price for the R/T including everything was 20860 or a 1940
dollar
> difference. These prces were 500 over invoice with the 2000 rebate. i
know
> you can get the 5 speed and save money, but with lots of stop and go that
> just isn't an option for me and lets keep this at least even when it comes
> to priceing. i know, i came with 2 days of buying a 4.7, then changed my
> mind. IMHO, the 4.,7 is a great motor and any Dakota s a great truck, but
> all the R/t bashing pisses me off because we are supposed to be a family
of
> sorts, but it seems everyone ere just wants to argue wit each oter and
> suport some overpriced Ferd.
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