Re: TO: - TJ Goettner

From: TJ Goettner (TNJG999@email.msn.com)
Date: Sat Sep 08 2001 - 03:01:45 EDT


No, I've shot 2 IPSIC (sp?) matches now... more or less a learning
experience, and of course fun. I shoot at Little River Gun Club in
Valdosta, GA. I've got several SS and EX cards in smallbore (my all time
favorite, but I have not shot it in 2 years now) and I've picked up my EX
card in Highpower Service Rifle. I just bought my M1A 2 years ago now, but
I've only shot maybe 10 matches or so, I haven't shot the way I like to, its
so ungodly hot here in GA, and the mesquitos are horrible here, besides the
range is nothing but a breeding ground for them. Can't say that that's much
of an excuse, I know if Carlos Hathcock heard me complaining about a few
bugs he'd call a puss. I picked up my Kimber at the beginning of this year,
shot a match in Feb, and another in March but none since. Just got too
exspensive with 4 hobbies now. I don't reload yet, but I've been saving my
brass up till now, when I replaced my extractor on my M1A, all it wants to
do now is dent the case when it throws it out, maybe I just need another,
bad match or something. Anyway, I love my 1911, so does the wife, she
shoots it too. I'll probably get serious with it too when I get settled in
with my new job. ANYWAY, ITS LATE AND IM RAMBLING, GOOD NIGHT!!!!!!!!!

TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Paulson" <cybermail1@yahoo.com>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:07 PM
Subject: DML: TO: - TJ Goettner

> TJ,
> Do you shoot IDPA at South River Gun Club????
>
> --- TJ Goettner <TNJG999@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > I shoot High Power Rifle in competition (M1A), its a
> > great sport. My second
> > love is pistol competition (Kimber .45 cal 1911) ...
> > third being paintball
> > and of course somewhere mixed in there is my Dakota
> > and racing.... none of
> > which will ever be taken from me. I live in GA,
> > military, and I do carry
> > depending on where I am going. I pity the poor sap
> > that decides to
> > unwelcomely enter my house late at night... he will
> > be dealt with EXTREME
> > prejudice.
> >
> > TJ
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <ABeerCan@aol.com>
> > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>;
> > <dmlofftopic@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:03 PM
> > Subject: DML: Gun Control - (very very long)
> >
> >
> > > In a message dated 9/7/01 12:31:51 PM Central
> > Daylight Time,
> > > bsm11@cornell.edu writes:
> > >
> > > << I feel bad for the people that truly respect
> > guns, and the law;
> > However,
> > > the gun problem has to be stopped. You know, it's
> > pretty sad when
> > criminals
> > > are armed with bigger, more powerful guns, than
> > our officers of the law.
> > > >>
> > >
> > > Brian,
> > > This is due to the fact that many police
> > departments are restricted by
> > > just what you said you want! If a police officer
> > were to go out into the
> > > field and shoot a perp with his 44 Magnum, the
> > police precinct will be
> > sued
> > > in a civil suit saying that "if the cop had not
> > had such a powerful
> > handgun,
> > > the perp could have been stopped and not killed.
> > Therefore the police
> > > precinct is at fault, not because the perp decided
> > to break the law, but
> > > because the officer decided that his life was in
> > peril and returned fire
> > with
> > > a ""way to powerful weapon"" for a police officer
> > to need." And don't say
> > > this isn't so. I have sat through one court
> > hearing about this here in my
> > > hometown. A man was in the process of a burglary,
> > we will call him John
> > Doe.
> > > When Officer Larry (name changed) responded to
> > the call, he found the
> > John
> > > Doe to be in the process of coming out the front
> > door. As soon as John
> > Doe
> > > saw the police car, he dropped everything and
> > started shooting at the car
> > > with a 9 mm automatic handgun. At this point,
> > Officer Larry came to a
> > > screeching halt, rolled out his driver's side door
> > and returned fire.
> > John
> > > Doe was hit twice in the chest with 230 grain
> > loads of 45 ACP. John Doe
> > was
> > > pronounced dead on the scene by the coroner. The
> > family of John Doe then
> > > reciprocated by suing both the police precinct and
> > Officer Larry. They
> > > claimed that "If Officer Larry had not used such a
> > powerful handgun, then
> > > their family member John Doe might still be
> > alive." The family case was
> > > thrown out of court thank goodness. The bad part
> > though is that all this
> > > cost the people money by wasting their tax
> > dollars. Not only on Lawyers,
> > but
> > > in wasted court time, wasted defense time, etc.
> > Now because of this
> > lawsuit,
> > > my home town police officers are limited to a 40
> > S&W in caliber. They are
> > > also limited in the rounds they are allowed to
> > load in this firearm. No
> > > longer can they use ammo that can be labeled as
> > "self defense," but they
> > have
> > > to use standard velocity ammo. So much for being
> > able to match the
> > criminals
> > > in firepower. Also, no longer can just any
> > officer carry a shotgun. And
> > out
> > > of approx. 100 officers, only 4 are allowed to
> > carry rifles for any type
> > of
> > > use. And these must be carried in the trunk. So
> > once again, it is not
> > the
> > > criminal that is the reason the cops are
> > outgunned, it is all the legal
> > stuff
> > > that is holding the police back in their armament.
> > Remember that bank
> > heist
> > > in Cali a while back? I don't suppose that you
> > also remember that the
> > cops
> > > in that instance had to go to a local pawnshop and
> > get more powerful
> > > firepower? The cops were not issued the firepower
> > they need. They only
> > had
> > > a semi-auto handgun and maybe a back up revolver.
> > And if you like the
> > idea
> > > of no guns what so ever. Look at Britain. Their
> > crime rate is much
> > higher
> > > than ours. Granted, we have more crimes committed
> > each year, but we also
> > > have many times more people than they do. What
> > you have to look at is the
> > > crime percentage, in other words, how many crimes
> > are committed for how
> > many
> > > people are in that countries population. Now on
> > to a more real world
> > > comparison. Let's suppose that you are criminal.
> > You are looking for
> > > someone to mug so you can make some quick cash to
> > buy whatever it is that
> > you
> > > want.
> > > 1) Ok, let's first walk through a situation that
> > you would prefer.
> > Firearms
> > > are illegal to own for anyone except police or
> > gov't authorities. You are
> > > standing on a street corner and have roughly 10
> > people to choose from.
> > They
> > > range from a very large frame man who looks to be
> > about three times your
> > size
> > > down to a middle aged woman who is about 5' tall,
> > is obviously not very
> > > strong and appears to be slightly disabled by her
> > slight limp. Who would
> > you
> > > choose?
> > > 2) Ok, now to today's modern society. Firearms
> > are legal for those with
> > > permits, police and gov't authorities. People
> > with permits do not have to
> > > let it be publicly known, for they are concealed
> > carry permits. You have
> > the
> > > same ten people to choose from. Except this time
> > you have to wonder who
> > has
> > > the firearm. The middle-aged lady has a purse
> > that is large enough to
> > hide a
> > > handgun in. Does she have one? If she does, it
> > will mean your life,
> > either
> > > literally or in jail with the scars to remind you
> > of why you are there.
> > Who
> > > would you choose? And how confident would you
> > feel about choosing them??
> > > 3) Firearms are required to be owned by any and
> > all civilians, police and
> > > gov't authorities. They can be carried concealed,
> > open holstered, cocked
> > > loaded and ready to go legally. The same ten
> > people are walking around
> > you.
> > > You still want some money. They all have firearms
> > and you know it. Do
> > you
> > > dare take a chance on your life knowing that a
> > firearm will be involved?
> > How
> > > confident would you feel about taking that chance?
> > > These are just different scenarios to show my
> > point.
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>
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