Re: Is my engine dying? (longish)

From: A. S. (adakota4x4@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Nov 02 2001 - 19:45:16 EST


My 95 V6 and my dad's 97 V6 both use one (1) PCV valve.

--Aaron--
95 DSRC 4x4 V6
www.geocities.com/adakota4x4_95/

>From: Andy Levy <andylevy@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
>To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>Subject: Re: DML: Is my engine dying? (longish)
>Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:21:10 -0500
>
>Fuel filter would have to wait till Thanksgiving weekend. I can't drop the
>tank
>in my apartment complex. Power seems to be lower than usual lately (forgot
>to
>mention that before), this would point to a bad O2 sensor, correct?
>
>As for the number of PCV valves, I don't know. Can someone check for me?
>I
>don't know if the Haynes manual has that, and the FSM is at home.
>
>Kenneth Eng wrote:
>
> > Does the Magnum engines use 2 PCV valve?
> >
> > How about changing the fuel filter?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andy Levy [mailto:andylevy@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 1:59 PM
> > To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: Is my engine dying? (longish)
> >
> > WOW. The list never ceases to amaze me. Thanks to everyone who's
>posted so
> > far. I was afraid my post last night was so long people would pass it
>by.
> > I
> > think my shopping list for tonight is:
> >
> > cap
> > rotor
> > plugs
> > wires (have to mail-order)
> > PCV valve
> >
> > Any other real cheap, easy stuff I can replace while I'm in there? What
> > about
> > the EGR valve (while we're throwing around 3-letter valve names)? May
>as
> > well
> > do all these "little" things while I'm at it. Now I get to use my shiny
>new
> > FSM! More below:
> >
> > Bob Tom wrote:
> >
> > > The injectors do make a clicking sound when they open and close.
> > > Under certain circumstances, the injectors will stop opening and
> > > closing when decelerating.
> > >
> > > OE exhaust manifolds do not usually leak but will make a ticking
> > > sound upon startup when engine is cold. If the leak isn't too large,
> > > the ticking sound will disappear when the exhaust gases get hot
> > > and the metal expands.
> >
> > I get it both hot and cold.
> >
> > >
> > > >My gas mileage has also been poorer than I think it should be. I'm
> > > >getting 13 MPG *at best* in town, and am hard-pressed to get over
>16.5
> > > >at 70-75 MPH. I used to be able to pull 17-18 at those highways
>speeds.
> > >
> > > When put together with the ticking sound (if it's pinging), these
>symptoms
> > > sure point to a leaking belly pan gasket. Are you experiencing a
> > > more-than-normal oil level drop as well?
> > >
> > > What is your mileage? The O2 sensor(s) and its circuitry conditions
> > > could also explain your mileage loss. The sensor gets lazy over
> > > time. Dirt etc. contamination is also a common cause of failure
> > > of the sensor (thinking of the wild things that everyone does with
> > > their trucks at Jon's BBQ).
> >
> > My first thought was the gasket as well, but I didn't see much in the
> > manifold
> > 2 weeks ago when I had the TB off.
> >
> > I'm at 41K right now. I suppose those O2 sensors might have gotten
>dirty at
> > Jon's, there was a small amount of crud flying around :). O2 sensors
>are a
> > little over my "well, let's try it" price but if the other stuff doesn't
> > work
> > out, I'll go for it.
> >
> > > >At Daktoberfest, Jim Knox thought he heard a misfire when I had it in
> > > >Neutral and got the revs up.
> > >
> > > Misfire will cause the O2 sensors to send false readings to the PCM
> > > resulting in increase gas usage as well as dumping raw gas into the
> > > exhaust. Have you smelled any gasoline fumes around the truck?
> >
> > Maybe, but I haven't been checking close. I'll try to be more
>observant.
> >
> > > >Would it be worth pulling and cleaning the fuel injectors? What's
>the
> > > >procedure for this, and do I need a special socket?
> > >
> > > Do you have the url for Jon's MPI installation? The section for
>removing
> > > the injectors (no special tool required) may be there. If not, let me
> > > know, and I'll copy it from the printed installation guide. The only
> > > messy part if purging the gasoline from the line and the rails.
> >
> > I can find it on the site; if I can't locate it, I'll drop you a private
> > line.
> >
> > >
> > > >I really, really, really do not want to bend over and pay the dealer
>to
> > > >look at this. I'm well out of warranty at this point. I want to do
>as
> > > >much as I can myself before resorting to a dealer visit. Is it
>possible
> > > >that my belly pan gasket is only very slightly leaking, not enough
>for
> > > >oil to come in? Valve lifters? andy
> > >
> > > Do the ignition maintenance first? Maybe try to localize the
> > > ticking location. See what improvements occur and let us know.
> > >
> > > Good luck.
> > >
> > > Bob
>

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