Re: Re: how bad are the stock rockers?

From: joel.esler@us.army.mil
Date: Mon Dec 10 2001 - 07:06:55 EST


oh please... shutup.... the only ticking i hear is you when you
talk... that's pretty juvenile

----- Original Message -----
From: Sam South <sawcut64@mediaone.net>
Date: Monday, December 10, 2001 5:52 am
Subject: DML: Re: how bad are the stock rockers?

> The first time when we assembled the motor you didn't want to help
> with that
> step, and 200 miles later when I did the final adjustment you
> weren't even
> there. Seriously though maybe Bernd is right, there may be some other
> problem you're having (engine wise) that's causing them to
> constantly go out
> of adjustment.
> Sam South
> ET 13.61 MPH 105.88
> '95 Dak RC, 5.9L,5-speed,390 LSD
> http://people.mw.mediaone.net/sawcut64/home.html
> http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/Mt5J8FaDfVCv6/profile.htm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Kuzia" <flyboy01@mediaone.net>
> To: <dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET>
> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 12:35 AM
> Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: how bad are the stock rockers?
>
>
> > Not as annoying as the ticking I hear when you talk.
> >
> > BTW, who helped you install yours?
> >
> > Mark Kuzia
> > flyboy01@mediaone.net
> > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/flyboy01/home.html
> > 1995 Dakota 13.79 @ 102.45 mph "Fastdak"
> > ~360ci, 5-spd, 8 3/4 rear / 3.90-SG
> > 1994 Dakota 15.36 @ 91.56 mph
> > ~318ci, 5-spd, 3.90 LS (bone stock, no mods)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sam South" <sawcut64@mediaone.net>
> > To: <dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 10:07 PM
> > Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: Re: how bad are the stock rockers?
> >
> >
> > > That little bit of ticking is normal I think and pretty minor
> comparedto
> > > yours, I just find it irritating. Yours sounded much worse then
> > mine...like
> > > I said faulty installation technique :)
> > > Sam South
> > > ET 13.61 MPH 105.88
> > > '95 Dak RC, 5.9L,5-speed,390 LSD
> > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/sawcut64/home.html
> > > http://www.dakota-
> truck.net/profiles/dakota/Mt5J8FaDfVCv6/profile.htm> > -----
> Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mark Kuzia" <flyboy01@mediaone.net>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:28 PM
> > > Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: how bad are the stock rockers?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I hear you complaining all the time about ticking noises!
> Mine were
> fine
> > > for
> > > > the first 5000 miles too. You will be adjusting yours in the
> futuretoo.
> > > >
> > > > Mark Kuzia
> > > > flyboy01@mediaone.net
> > > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/flyboy01/home.html
> > > > 1995 Dakota 13.79 @ 102.45 mph "Fastdak"
> > > > ~360ci, 5-spd, 8 3/4 rear / 3.90-SG
> > > > 1994 Dakota 15.36 @ 91.56 mph
> > > > ~318ci, 5-spd, 3.90 LS (bone stock, no mods)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Sam South" <sawcut64@mediaone.net>
> > > > To: <dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 10:41 AM
> > > > Subject: DML: Re: Re: how bad are the stock rockers?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Sounds like you need to seek professional assistance Mark
> ;) Mine
> have
> > > > only
> > > > > a slight ticking after 4500 miles...must be the installer :o)
> > > > > Sam South
> > > > > ET 13.61 MPH 105.88
> > > > > '95 Dak RC, 5.9L,5-speed,390 LSD
> > > > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/sawcut64/home.html
> > > > >
> http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/Mt5J8FaDfVCv6/profile.htm
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Mark Kuzia" <flyboy01@mediaone.net>
> > > > > To: <dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 9:44 AM
> > > > > Subject: DML: Re: how bad are the stock rockers?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Not that bad, they do cost horsepower. But my Mopar
> rockers are
> > crap!
> > > I
> > > > > have
> > > > > > re-adjusted them 4 times already, Idid them last
> Wednesday, AND
> THEY
> > > > NEED
> > > > > TO
> > > > > > BE DONE AGAIN! ARRGH!!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think I'm gonna switch to Hughes rockers next. Did I
> mentionthat
> > > the
> > > > > > studs came unscrewed on two cylinders also. They suck,
> is my
> > opinion!
> > > My
> > > > > > truck spends more time with the valve covers off than
> on. I have
> > > > adjusted
> > > > > > them in several different ways and they always start
> ticking after
> a
> > > few
> > > > > > days. I have even had one of the adjusting nuts come off
> oncewhile
> > > > > driving
> > > > > > down the road,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark Kuzia
> > > > > > flyboy01@mediaone.net
> > > > > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/flyboy01/home.html
> > > > > > 1995 Dakota 13.79 @ 102.45 mph "Fastdak"
> > > > > > ~360ci, 5-spd, 8 3/4 rear / 3.90-SG
> > > > > > 1994 Dakota 15.36 @ 91.56 mph
> > > > > > ~318ci, 5-spd, 3.90 LS (bone stock, no mods)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Doug Myers" <dougmyers@starpower.net>
> > > > > > To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 9:07 PM
> > > > > > Subject: DML: how bad are the stock rockers?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey guys,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm pretty sure that my roller rockers need to be
> re-adjusted.
> > > I'm
> > > > > > > getting a loud ticking sound, and I've never re-
> adjusted them
> > since
> > > I
> > > > > > built
> > > > > > > the engine. I've got about 8,000 miles on the rebuild
> right now.
> > Is
> > > it
> > > > > > > normal to have to re-adjust aluminum rockers
> periodically? If
> so,
> > > then
> > > > > > thats
> > > > > > > leads to my next question.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How bad are the stock rockers? I've been thinking
> about this
> > > since
> > > > I
> > > > > > > realized that my rockers need to be re-adjusted. Also,
> since my
> > > > rollers
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > aluminum, they may need periodic adjustment. I don't
> want to be
> > > > > > re-adjusting
> > > > > > > them every other oil change, and I don't think the
> stock rockers
> > > would
> > > > > > cost
> > > > > > > me any more than 5-10hp. I did some research and found
> out the
> the
> > > > > > 380hp/360
> > > > > > > Mopar crate engine uses the same stock rockers and
> pushrods that
> > our
> > > > > > engines
> > > > > > > leave the factory with, and it has a more radical cam
> (288/292> > > duration,
> > > > > > > .501/.513 lift) than my Comp Cams cam (260/264 duration,
> .512/.512
> > > > > lift),
> > > > > > > therefore a higher powerband. The valvesprings they
> use are
> about
> > > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > > specs also (mine have 120lbs seat pressure, 310
> open... theirs
> > have
> > > > > 140lbs
> > > > > > > seat pressure, and 290 open). Why wouldn't the stock
> rockers be
> > good
> > > > > > enough
> > > > > > > for my engine if they're good enough for the crate engine?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Doug Myers
> > > > > > > -------------
> > > > > > > '99 Dakota RC/SB 5.9L/5-speed/3.92SG - 14.320@98.46mph
> > > > > > > R/T wheels, Nitto NT-450 275/50R17 tires, K&N Gen II
> FIPK, Comp
> > Cams
> > > > > '604
> > > > > > > cam, ProGear timing chain, MP 2-bbl MPI, MP 1.92" R/T
> heads,> Hughes'
> > > > > > roller
> > > > > > > rockers, MP polished valve covers, ASP crank pulley,
> MP Headers,
> > 3"
> > > > > > Dynomax
> > > > > > > cat, 3" Flowmaster, Accel Supercoil, Magnecor KV-85
> 8.5mm Race
> > > Wires,
> > > > > > > Melling HV oil pump, Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>



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