Your opinion is fine, BUT, it is still NOT an R/T. It doesn't matter what
badges you put on, what options you upgrade as would be on the special
option package, etc. It is still not an R/T. R/T is a special option
package available from the factory and unless your vehicle was ordered with
that package it is NOT that model. Just like putting a 440 6pak into an old
Coronet doesn't make it a SuperBee. Yes it has a 440 6pak, but it is still
a clone. My former 67 Satellite was a Belvedere. A 67 GTX is a Satellite,
and is also a Belvedere. BUT a Belvedere is not necessarily a Satellite,
much less not a GTX. In this case, Satellite was a trim package on the
Belvedere, and GTX was an Engine Option on the Satellite. In Dakota terms,
an R/T is a Sport, and is also a Dakota, but a Sport doesn't mean the
vehicle is an R/T (see above).
If I were judging a car that was in a STOCK class at a show, and the VIN
pointed to a 225/318/whatever, and the motor did not match the VIN, I would
severely deduct points. BUT, if the car was in a Modified class, that would
be an entirely different story. At this point in the conversation, things
are pretty black and white to me. Now, if you were to rebody a car, (take a
VIN from a Hemi, attach it to a 318, put all of the correct Hemi parts etc
into the 318 chassis) then things get a bit gray. This debate can go on
forever!! There have been many rants on this topic in Mopar Muscle, Hi Perf
Mopar, etc on this topic.
As I said earlier, do whatever you want. BUT, when it comes time to sell
it, be upfront about what the vehicle really is. Obviously, anyone on this
list will be able to tell that a 6 cylinder doesn't make an R/T, and that
there were no 4 Door or 4x4 R/Ts, but some guy on the street may not know
the difference, and just think its a great deal until after the fact when he
comes after you with a gun.
My .02
TonyC
-----Original Message-----
From: Chad Evans <hemidak@msn.com>
To: dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET <dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET>
Date: Thursday, December 13, 2001 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: DML: Quad cab 3.9 R/T..It sure fools....
>your viewpoint sucks. if you have gone to shows like you say then you
should
>now that their are plenty of clone cars out there, that don't advertise its
>a clone. say like a convertible hemi car, but the car only came with a 318
>to be in with. you going to go peel off stickers every time you see
>something out of place just because it didn't come that way. i've made my
99
>5.2L to look like an r/t for alot less than what it would have cost me to
>buy one.
>
>hemidak@msn.com
>
>>From: "TonyC" <acellan1@tampabay.rr.com>
>>Reply-To: dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
>>To: <dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET>
>>Subject: Re: DML: Quad cab 3.9 R/T..It sure fools....
>>Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 00:23:33 -0500
>>
>>Err, Umm...
>>
>>As the owner of both a 98 Sport 5.2 V8 and 2K R/T, may I add my .02
here??
>>I can see 97-98 5.2s sporting an R/T decal. Since R/Ts had not been
>>introduced to the market yet, and MP had the cam/computer/intake/exhaust
>>package available and was calling it the 'R/T' kit, if you've made these
>>mods, sported it up a bit, by ALL means, go ahead and call it an 'R/T'
>>(you're probalby quicker than my nearly stock R/T PB 14.58@92+).
>>
>>BUT if you're gonna call a 4 cyl,6cyl, or a 99 5.2, 2K&up 4.7 an R/T, you
>>are NO BETTER than the ricers with badging from different makes, or engine
>>packages that are not available for their vehicles.
>>
>>If you have gone through all of the trouble to make a full on clone, 360,
>>flares, painted the bumpers, etc, then it is still a clone. Call it what
>>you may, but just remember to let the next owner know the truth when
you're
>>selling it to them.
>>
>>I'm not trying to be an arrogant R/T owner here. My viewpoint has been
>>honed after many years of owning older Mopar musclecars (67 Plymouth
>>Satellite Conv 383 4bbl,4spd, 3.23SG - recently sold), and attending and
>>judging shows.
>>
>>TonyC
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: MAGNUM S/T <kevinhoegen@email.com>
>>To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>><dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
>>Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:29 PM
>>Subject: Re: DML: Quad cab 3.9 R/T..It sure fools....
>>
>>
>> >Maybe we should all put R/T badges on our Daks...might save on speeding
>> >tickets if the competition is unwilling to street race..he he
>> >
>> >plus...why pay all that extra money for the R/T package when you can
>>simply
>> >purchase the vinyl decals for pennies....who's gonna notice :)
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