RE: End of the Prowler?

From: Sam South (sawcut64@mediaone.net)
Date: Mon Dec 17 2001 - 17:36:42 EST


Grunt is good to Sam!!!
Sam South
ET 13.61 MPH 105.88
'95 Dak RC, 5.9L,5-speed,390 LSD
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Stlaurent Mr Steven" <STLAURENTS@MCTSSA.USMC.MIL>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:12 PM
Subject: DML: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: End of the Prowler?

> "Just for reference the new Z06 went 4.0 in the 0-60."
>
> That is because of the rear gears they were using. Check the article for
> the gearing and you find that it is a standard for the Chevy to uses the
> 3.70:1 (in that neighborhood). It would be a lower time if Dodge would
put
> in a 3.91:1 gear versus those 3.08:1 highway version.
>
> I am hoping that Dodge would up the ante with a 4.01:1 gearing for the R/T
> Dakota in Sept of 2003 (2004 model year). The Ford Lightning program is
now
> an option for this gear.
>
> Again, who cares about the 140MPH top end but I want the bottom end grunt
> power.
>
> --------------------------------------
> Steven St.Laurent
> C2 IOW/IOS Engineer
> C4i Engineering Branch, PSD, MCTSSA
> MARCORSYSCOM, U.S. Marine Corps
> Office (760) 725-2506 (DSN Prefix: 365)
> "Never be content with somebody else definition
> of you. Instead, define yourself by your own beliefs,
> your own truths, your own understanding of who
> you are. Never be content until you are happy with
> the unique person GOD has created you to be."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam South [mailto:sawcut64@mediaone.net]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 1:16 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: End of the Prowler?
>
> I'd love to see these cars/truck made and this 2004 R/T would definitely
be
> on my Christmas list!!! But I've heard these kinds of things from them
> before, lets hope they do it this time. Just for reference the new Z06
went
> 4.0 in the 0-60.
> Sam South
> ET 13.61 MPH 105.88
> '95 Dak RC, 5.9L,5-speed,390 LSD
> http://people.mw.mediaone.net/sawcut64/home.html
> http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/Mt5J8FaDfVCv6/profile.htm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stlaurent Mr Steven" <STLAURENTS@MCTSSA.USMC.MIL>
> To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 3:58 PM
> Subject: DML: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: End of the Prowler?
>
>
> > Sam, not when the 2003 Viper, which does the 0-60 in 3.95 seconds.
> >
> > Looking at the new cars that will hit the street before 2005:
> >
> > 2003 GT Cruiser 225HP plus
> > 2004 R/T Hemi Dakota 325HP plus w/o supercharger (weight is expected to
be
> > 3400lb)
> > 2003 300M Hemi 353hp/353lb
> > 2003 Neon SRT 220HP plus
> >
> > So you are right....a mid size car is not in Dodge lineup to compare
with
> > the Mustang Boss (2003 405HP) or the last 2002 Camaro SS (325). This is
a
> > weakness on DaimlerChrysler behalf. I can agree on the expected
consumer
> > purchases. Even Mazda is returning the RX-8 with a 1.3L with 280HP
motor
> > around the 30K mark. I would think that at least DaimlerChrysler should
> put
> > the Charger R/T back in for 24-30K mark.
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> > Steven St.Laurent
> > C2 IOW/IOS Engineer
> > C4i Engineering Branch, PSD, MCTSSA
> > MARCORSYSCOM, U.S. Marine Corps
> > Office (760) 725-2506 (DSN Prefix: 365)
> > "Never be content with somebody else definition
> > of you. Instead, define yourself by your own beliefs,
> > your own truths, your own understanding of who
> > you are. Never be content until you are happy with
> > the unique person GOD has created you to be."
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sam South [mailto:sawcut64@mediaone.net]
> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 12:35 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: End of the Prowler?
> >
> > That was last years Vette, this year is even faster and it is, at this
> time
> > according to Car and Driver January 2002 faster in the quarter and 0 to
> 60.
> > For arguments sake lets say they're equal in the acceleration dept. it
is
> > still a MUCH more affordable car. The point I was trying to make was
Dodge
> > needs to build a car/truck that can compete with the Mustang/Camaro or
> > Lightning for the same price, they don't and haven't for a long time.
One
> > way to achieve that goal is to cut some of the other performance cars in
> > favor of something everyone can afford.
> > Sam South
> > ET 13.61 MPH 105.88
> > '95 Dak RC, 5.9L,5-speed,390 LSD
> > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/sawcut64/home.html
> > http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/Mt5J8FaDfVCv6/profile.htm
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Slick North" <prodog@swbell.net>
> > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 11:25 AM
> > Subject: DML: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: End of the Prowler?
> >
> >
> > > Sam,
> > >
> > > The Z06 is not faster than the Viper.... it WAS quicker through the
> road
> > > course, but that is a combination of power and handling...
> > >
> > > The Z06 outhandles the Viper, considerably... that is why is was
quicker
> > on
> > > the road course...
> > >
> > > Later,
> > > Tom "Slick" North
> > > 96 Dodge Dakota 5.2L RC
> > > 71 Chevelle Malibu 350
> > > 71 Porsche 914/2.0L
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sam South" <sawcut64@mediaone.net>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:02 AM
> > > Subject: DML: Re: RE: Re: RE: End of the Prowler?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sorry but what makes you think the Viper is worth $130,000 or even
> > > $80,000.
> > > > Because other over priced cars cost that much? I would be much more
> > > inclined
> > > > to purchase a $50,000 ZO6 Corvette that according to Car and Driver
is
> a
> > > > faster(yes faster) better sports car. I also disagree, the Prowler
IS
> > > > assumed to be a retro performance car, retro yes(looks very cool)
> > > > performance NO and again is over priced. Sorry just my .02.
> > > > Sam South
> > > > ET 13.61 MPH 105.88
> > > > '95 Dak RC, 5.9L,5-speed,390 LSD
> > > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/sawcut64/home.html
> > > >
http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/Mt5J8FaDfVCv6/profile.htm
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Stlaurent Mr Steven" <STLAURENTS@MCTSSA.USMC.MIL>
> > > > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 10:12 AM
> > > > Subject: DML: RE: Re: RE: End of the Prowler?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have to disagree with the Viper pricing. Comparable performance
> > > vehicle
> > > > > are going twice the amount and the car is reasonable price below
> what
> > > > should
> > > > > be a 130,000 plus vehicle.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, there are models that will be release in the next coming
three
> > > years
> > > > > that will help to fill the gap on the low to medium range
> performance
> > > > > vehicles.
> > > > >
> > > > > As with the Prowler, it was not designed to be a performance
vehicle
> > at
> > > > all
> > > > > but a cruiser retro hot rod. I was at Jack Powell and brought in
my
> > in
> > > > > aluminum can (Swift GTI) and asked the owner if he wanted to race
> his
> > > > > Prowler against my little coke can. He looked over at the car and
> > > > > laughed....told me that it was a cruiser not a racer. I did
concur
> > and
> > > > > laugh knowing the performance specs was not up to the Viper level
of
> > > true
> > > > > sports car.
> > > > >
> > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > > Steven St.Laurent
> > > > > C2 IOW/IOS Engineer
> > > > > C4i Engineering Branch, PSD, MCTSSA
> > > > > MARCORSYSCOM, U.S. Marine Corps
> > > > > Office (760) 725-2506 (DSN Prefix: 365)
> > > > > "Never be content with somebody else definition
> > > > > of you. Instead, define yourself by your own beliefs,
> > > > > your own truths, your own understanding of who
> > > > > you are. Never be content until you are happy with
> > > > > the unique person GOD has created you to be."
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Sam South [mailto:sawcut64@mediaone.net]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:55 AM
> > > > > To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > > > > Subject: DML: Re: RE: End of the Prowler?
> > > > >
> > > > > EXCELLENT and they should and get rid of the Viper as well, then
> they
> > > can
> > > > > build a competitive performance car that EVERYONE can afford. The
> > > problem
> > > > > (and it's been a long time problem) with Chrysler is they
> don't(won't)
> > > > build
> > > > > a sports car that will compete with the Mustang/Lightning,
> > > Camaro/Firebird
> > > > > in the same price range. Most of us are left high and dry drooling
> > over
> > > > the
> > > > > Viper but unable to afford one. If you want a fast Dodge you
either
> > > spend
> > > > > $80,000 or you have to build it yourself.
> > > > > Sam South
> > > > > ET 13.61 MPH 105.88
> > > > > '95 Dak RC, 5.9L,5-speed,390 LSD
> > > > > http://people.mw.mediaone.net/sawcut64/home.html
> > > > >
> http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/Mt5J8FaDfVCv6/profile.htm
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Stlaurent Mr Steven" <STLAURENTS@MCTSSA.USMC.MIL>
> > > > > To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 9:35 AM
> > > > > Subject: DML: RE: End of the Prowler?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Why????? When they sell the complete inventory as with the
Vipers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > > > Steven St.Laurent
> > > > > > C2 IOW/IOS Engineer
> > > > > > C4i Engineering Branch, PSD, MCTSSA
> > > > > > MARCORSYSCOM, U.S. Marine Corps
> > > > > > Office (760) 725-2506 (DSN Prefix: 365)
> > > > > > "Never be content with somebody else definition
> > > > > > of you. Instead, define yourself by your own beliefs,
> > > > > > your own truths, your own understanding of who
> > > > > > you are. Never be content until you are happy with
> > > > > > the unique person GOD has created you to be."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Richard A Pyburn [mailto:rap777@juno.com]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 6:22 AM
> > > > > > To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > > > > > Subject: DML: End of the Prowler?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chrysler to ax the Prowler!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.car-truck.com/chryed/buzz/b121401.htm
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