Re: Re: RE: Service Manuals Project

From: Martin Nowak (got-speed@cox.net)
Date: Sat Jun 15 2002 - 17:40:28 EDT


Isn't that why we have such good services as bearshare, limewire, morpheus,
etc.... for media sharing ??
I do see what you are saying tho, It may not be right but sooner than later
its gonna happen.
Goto http://pub33.ezboard.com/bkawasakininjaex25033281 and towards the top
you will see a copy of the owners manual..... Isn't this the same thing ?

Marty

""Gabriel A. Couriel"" <BigGabe@FIUFIJI.com> wrote in message
news:MPEOJOCMGKFIMBCMILJMMEOHCBAA.BigGabe@FIUFIJI.com...
>
> however, by copying it and distributing it, you are denying Chrysler
money.
> the book is the work and intellectual property of Chrysler, not us, so you
> are in essence denying profit from them, and they have the right to sue
for
> restitution and lost profits.
>
> think of this as me, ripping a CD, distributing all the songs to anyone
who
> wants it on DML, and then assuming that i am within my rights as the owner
> of the CD to do that. its essentially the same thing.
>
> Gabe
> http://frontpage.tripod.com/fijigabe0
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net]On Behalf Of Gary Hedlin
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 10:42 AM
> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> Subject: Re: DML: Re: RE: Service Manuals Project
>
>
>
> YES! Thats correct
>
>
> --
> Gary Hedlin
> "The Crazy Quadraplegic"
> ghedlin@theramp.net (business)
> ragingquad@yahoo.com (personal)
> **Also Webmaster For**
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>
> ""Jon"" <jons@laserdrive.com> wrote in message
> news:aecup8$5r2$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> >
> > Everything I've ever heard or read about copyrights is as follows:
> >
> > You can copy all you want. If you try and make money then you are in
> > violation.
> >
> > I think the idea is great anyway.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > ""Gary Hedlin"" <ghedlin@theramp.net> wrote in message
> > news:aecuei$5cd$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > >
> > > Guys.... this is not brain surgery! Splitting hairs will get us
> nowhere.
> > >
> > > I've got 3 people that want to do this already. I think if we kept
this
> > > between ourselves, nobody's going to complain. Agian, if we already
own
> > the
> > > manuals, creating the PDF files is well within our rights. As far as
> > > sharing them, well we may need to explore our options.
> > >
> > > I would rather do the work, send the PDF files to the owner of the
> manual,
> > > and let them decide where they want to go.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gary Hedlin
> > > "The Crazy Quadraplegic"
> > > ghedlin@theramp.net (business)
> > > ragingquad@yahoo.com (personal)
> > > **Also Webmaster For**
> > > http://garyhedlin.com
> > > http://socaldakota.com
> > > http://scsilverdak.com
> > > http://assistivetechnologies.com
> > > ...And Many More!
> > >
> > > ""Andy Levy"" <andylevy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:aecsih$3id$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > > >
> > > > You really think it will be that anonymous? We leave a trail
> > everywhere.
> > > > They can find the DML archives. The hosting ISP could give up logs
> and
> > > > names when lawysers threaten.
> > > >
> > > > "aww, c'mon, who's gonna get hurt" really isn't a valid defense
> against
> > > > this. The FSM states on PAGE ONE that any storage & distribution of
> the
> > > > contents is prohiubited without express consent from Chrysler.
> > > >
> > > > ""Martin Nowak"" <got-speed@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:aecr29$2je$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > > > >
> > > > > There is intrest in the project....Count me.
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing that comes to mind is just doing it (the electronic
copy)
> > and
> > > > toss
> > > > > it out on the web on a site somewhere. If by chance chrysler did
> find
> > > it,
> > > > > who would they blame ?? Noone. They would just ask the hosting isp
> to
> > > take
> > > > > it down.
> > > > >
> > > > > Marty
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ""Gary Hedlin"" <ghedlin@theramp.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:aecd9o$qig$1@bent.twistedbits.net...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've ran into this problem before. As far as the manuals being
> > > > accessable
> > > > > > to the general public, there's no way I would even THINK about
> doing
> > > > this
> > > > > > unless there were controlls put in place to only allow certian
> > people
> > > to
> > > > > > access them. They WILL NOT be available to the general public.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let me put it this way, It would be illegal for me to take ANY
> > book,
> > > > scan
> > > > > > it, and post it online to the general public. The same as if I
> took
> > > the
> > > > > > files, ran off 1,000 coppies on my Xerox printer (which I am
more
> > than
> > > > > > capable of doing) and sold them on e-bay.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In no way would doing this (the project) be considered
> distribution
> > > > > because
> > > > > > (a) the general public does not have access and (b) a person has
> the
> > > > right
> > > > > > to put something he bought into an accessable format for
personal
> > use.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At this point, I'm not even sure I can get enough interest in
this
> > > > project
> > > > > > to make it worthwhile. If there is enough interest, I am sure a
> > > private
> > > > > > orginization like ourselves has the right to have a private
> > collection
> > > > for
> > > > > > use over electronic means.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Gary Hedlin
> > > > > > "The Crazy Quadraplegic"
> > > > > > ghedlin@theramp.net (business)
> > > > > > ragingquad@yahoo.com (personal)
> > > > > > **Also Webmaster For**
> > > > > > http://garyhedlin.com
> > > > > > http://socaldakota.com
> > > > > > http://scsilverdak.com
> > > > > > http://assistivetechnologies.com
> > > > > > ...And Many More!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Michael Clark" <dml@mikesdakota.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:144209073343.20020614035425@mikesdakota.com...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well, all I need is the manuals... The rest is easy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Plus, I've got a lot of time on my hands annyway :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You might want to think about the legal aspects of
> > > > > > > posting whole manuals online. I'm sure the publishing
> > > > > > > company that produces these manuals would love to turn
> > > > > > > their legal department loose on something like this.
> > > > > > > It would be GREAT if you could do this though. I would
> > > > > > > just hate to see you go to all that trouble, just to
> > > > > > > get into serious trouble...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --Mike
> > > > > > > www.mikesdakota.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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