Re: Re: Re: Re: Dakota a half ton

From: Tony Cellana (acellan1@tampabay.rr.com)
Date: Mon Jul 29 2002 - 16:03:16 EDT


You Northern guys must be using some sort of metric conversion hahaha
TonyC

-----Original Message-----
From: Canucker Trucker <mal5@ualberta.net>
To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
<dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
Date: Monday, July 29, 2002 2:46 PM
Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: Dakota a half ton

>
>um .. my 2 cents:
>
>the 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton rating is based on payload in the box if I'm not
>mistaken ... Dealer here lists the Dak. as a standard 750lb payload ... =
>3/8 ton ... The towing capacity is completely different (though the tongue
>weight is still limited by the payload in the box)...
>
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>
>""Tony Cellana"" <acellan1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:07d201c23723$39480740$70602241@a.tampabay.rr.com...
>>
>> The 10,500 everyone is referring to is the MAX Gross Vehicle weight.
>Truck
>> + Cargo + trailer load, NOT the trailer alone.
>>
>> Any time you are dragging a heavy trailer, it SHOULD have its own brakes
>> PERIOD. Whether it is an electric setup, or a set of surge hydraulics.
>>
>> I have used my 98 5.2 5spd 3.92 RC to haul dressed BB marine engines 1000
>> lbs, the truck did squat a bit. I have also used it to haul several
>> raceboats to different sites around FL. These boats weigh in arount 4500
>+
>> trailer + mounted tool boxes, about 6000-6500 lbs. Again no problems.
>Yes,
>> braking distances are longer. There is more weight, and the same swept
>> braking surfaces. Makes sense to me.
>>
>> If you are carrying a large load in the bed, carry it as far forward as
>> possible to ease the tail wagging the dog effect.
>>
>> TonyC
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mr. Plow <adam_is_mr_plow@hotmail.com>
>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>> Date: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:59 AM
>> Subject: DML: Re: Dakota a half ton
>>
>>
>> >
>> >Hey Paul,
>> >
>> >My Dak has the tow package, the beefier rear end etc. as well, but i
>> haven't
>> >towed very much with it, other than other trucks stuck in the mud.
><cough>
>> ><andy levy> <cough>
>> >hehehe
>> >But the heaviesty thing i've ever towed was an older Mercury Sable wagon
>on
>> >a little dolly. Figure probably 3000 lb car, or there abouts, te dolly
>was
>> >pretty light, maybe only 200 or so lbs. Anyway, it rode ok, really
>wasn't
>> >that much strain on the 4.7, but braking obviously needed a longer
>> distance.
>> >And that really is the important thing, braking. You could probably get
>> the
>> >Dak to pull 10,000+ lbs, but getting it to stop all that weight is a
>whole
>> >'nother story!!!!
>> >Little story for ya to kind of illustrate what i'm trying to say about
>the
>> >Dakota's abilities, and keeping it within "safe" limits:
>> >I was coming back from a camping trip, and we see this little car, i
>> "think"
>> >it was a Kia Sephia, looks a lot like the most recent Ford Escorts.
>> Anyway,
>> >this little car was towing this absolutely MASSIVE boat, it must have
>> >weighed like 15,000 lbs, maybe more, and was probably between 30-35 feet
>> >long. It looked like it could carry 8-10 people comfortably, and had
>> >below-deck sleeping for at least 4 people. Like i said, this boat was
>> >massive!!!
>> >Anyway, the little Kia's rear bumper was pretty close to scraping the
>> >ground, and over any bump, mostlikely did... But, it was pulling this
>boat
>> >at about 20 km/h (12mph).
>> >Now obviously this is not a safe thing to do, but it can be done.
>> >So, can the Daks tow 10,000+ lbs in trailer, crap in the bed? Yes.
>> >Should it be done? No.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >The Adam Blaster
>> >Two words, figure it out.....
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Hi Adam
>> >> I agree, it actually sounds proposterous! Unlike what I assume
to
>> be
>> >>the majority of members of this List, I use my truck for work daily.
>Mine
>> >>has the optional 2,000# factory GVW rating and trailer hitch. My
>trailer
>> >>weighs only 550# empty and @ the tongue about 270#. When pulling
around
>> >>2,500# combined trailer cargo and trailer weight and little or nothing
>in
>> >>the
>> >>truck it drives as though there was a giant hand behind pushing
strongly
>> >>forward. If I add about 1,000# truck cargo it tends to handle better
>> except
>> >>for stopping power. I never feel safe driving more than 50mph with
>loads
>> >>and
>> >>loaded trailer and then keep several car length distance if possible
>from
>> >>the
>> >>guy ahead of me.
>> >> I've only had a full 2,000# load in the truck alone several
times.
>> >>The
>> >>body rubber suspension limit bumpers are about 3" off the rear axle and
>> the
>> >>tailpipe may be even closer to the ground than 3". The rear suspension
>> >>bottoms almost constantly over very minor road surfaces. Front seems
to
>> >>take
>> >>2,000# very well. Incidentally, when hauling dirt, concrete chunks,
>> >>bricks,
>> >>sand, etc., you reach a 2,000# load without filling the 6.5' cargo bed
>to
>> >>the
>> >>side tops. So with products that have a high weight density you do not
>> >>fill
>> >>the cubic capacity of the cargo box to reach maximum load capacity even
>> >>with
>> >>the optional 2,000# pkg.
>> >> At around 15k mi I replaced the factory shocks with Bilsteins and
>at
>> >>the
>> >>same time both F&R stabilizer bars with Hotchkis mounted in poly
>bushings.
>> >>These larger diameter bars made a tremendous improvement in overall
safe
>> >>handling for a loaded truck and especially with a trailer too. The
>> factory
>> >>setup was too tame and the trailer tended to whip the truck like a dog
>> >>whose
>> >>tail is too big for his body! This was especially noted when loads are
>> >>real
>> >>ly heavy and the suspension is almost fully compressed.
>> >>
>> >>Cheers
>> >>
>> >>Paul Sahlin
>> >
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