i think it's based on the $ conversion rate ;-)
-adam
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Cellana" <acellan1@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dakota a half ton
>
> You Northern guys must be using some sort of metric conversion hahaha
> TonyC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Canucker Trucker <mal5@ualberta.net>
> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
> Date: Monday, July 29, 2002 2:46 PM
> Subject: DML: Re: Re: Re: Dakota a half ton
>
>
> >
> >um .. my 2 cents:
> >
> >the 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton rating is based on payload in the box if I'm not
> >mistaken ... Dealer here lists the Dak. as a standard 750lb payload ... =
> >3/8 ton ... The towing capacity is completely different (though the
tongue
> >weight is still limited by the payload in the box)...
> >
> >--
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> >--------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
> >""Tony Cellana"" <acellan1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:07d201c23723$39480740$70602241@a.tampabay.rr.com...
> >>
> >> The 10,500 everyone is referring to is the MAX Gross Vehicle weight.
> >Truck
> >> + Cargo + trailer load, NOT the trailer alone.
> >>
> >> Any time you are dragging a heavy trailer, it SHOULD have its own
brakes
> >> PERIOD. Whether it is an electric setup, or a set of surge hydraulics.
> >>
> >> I have used my 98 5.2 5spd 3.92 RC to haul dressed BB marine engines
1000
> >> lbs, the truck did squat a bit. I have also used it to haul several
> >> raceboats to different sites around FL. These boats weigh in arount
4500
> >+
> >> trailer + mounted tool boxes, about 6000-6500 lbs. Again no problems.
> >Yes,
> >> braking distances are longer. There is more weight, and the same swept
> >> braking surfaces. Makes sense to me.
> >>
> >> If you are carrying a large load in the bed, carry it as far forward as
> >> possible to ease the tail wagging the dog effect.
> >>
> >> TonyC
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Mr. Plow <adam_is_mr_plow@hotmail.com>
> >> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> >> Date: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:59 AM
> >> Subject: DML: Re: Dakota a half ton
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Hey Paul,
> >> >
> >> >My Dak has the tow package, the beefier rear end etc. as well, but i
> >> haven't
> >> >towed very much with it, other than other trucks stuck in the mud.
> ><cough>
> >> ><andy levy> <cough>
> >> >hehehe
> >> >But the heaviesty thing i've ever towed was an older Mercury Sable
wagon
> >on
> >> >a little dolly. Figure probably 3000 lb car, or there abouts, te
dolly
> >was
> >> >pretty light, maybe only 200 or so lbs. Anyway, it rode ok, really
> >wasn't
> >> >that much strain on the 4.7, but braking obviously needed a longer
> >> distance.
> >> >And that really is the important thing, braking. You could probably
get
> >> the
> >> >Dak to pull 10,000+ lbs, but getting it to stop all that weight is a
> >whole
> >> >'nother story!!!!
> >> >Little story for ya to kind of illustrate what i'm trying to say about
> >the
> >> >Dakota's abilities, and keeping it within "safe" limits:
> >> >I was coming back from a camping trip, and we see this little car, i
> >> "think"
> >> >it was a Kia Sephia, looks a lot like the most recent Ford Escorts.
> >> Anyway,
> >> >this little car was towing this absolutely MASSIVE boat, it must have
> >> >weighed like 15,000 lbs, maybe more, and was probably between 30-35
feet
> >> >long. It looked like it could carry 8-10 people comfortably, and had
> >> >below-deck sleeping for at least 4 people. Like i said, this boat was
> >> >massive!!!
> >> >Anyway, the little Kia's rear bumper was pretty close to scraping the
> >> >ground, and over any bump, mostlikely did... But, it was pulling this
> >boat
> >> >at about 20 km/h (12mph).
> >> >Now obviously this is not a safe thing to do, but it can be done.
> >> >So, can the Daks tow 10,000+ lbs in trailer, crap in the bed? Yes.
> >> >Should it be done? No.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >The Adam Blaster
> >> >Two words, figure it out.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Hi Adam
> >> >> I agree, it actually sounds proposterous! Unlike what I assume
> to
> >> be
> >> >>the majority of members of this List, I use my truck for work daily.
> >Mine
> >> >>has the optional 2,000# factory GVW rating and trailer hitch. My
> >trailer
> >> >>weighs only 550# empty and @ the tongue about 270#. When pulling
> around
> >> >>2,500# combined trailer cargo and trailer weight and little or
nothing
> >in
> >> >>the
> >> >>truck it drives as though there was a giant hand behind pushing
> strongly
> >> >>forward. If I add about 1,000# truck cargo it tends to handle better
> >> except
> >> >>for stopping power. I never feel safe driving more than 50mph with
> >loads
> >> >>and
> >> >>loaded trailer and then keep several car length distance if possible
> >from
> >> >>the
> >> >>guy ahead of me.
> >> >> I've only had a full 2,000# load in the truck alone several
> times.
> >> >>The
> >> >>body rubber suspension limit bumpers are about 3" off the rear axle
and
> >> the
> >> >>tailpipe may be even closer to the ground than 3". The rear
suspension
> >> >>bottoms almost constantly over very minor road surfaces. Front seems
> to
> >> >>take
> >> >>2,000# very well. Incidentally, when hauling dirt, concrete chunks,
> >> >>bricks,
> >> >>sand, etc., you reach a 2,000# load without filling the 6.5' cargo
bed
> >to
> >> >>the
> >> >>side tops. So with products that have a high weight density you do
not
> >> >>fill
> >> >>the cubic capacity of the cargo box to reach maximum load capacity
even
> >> >>with
> >> >>the optional 2,000# pkg.
> >> >> At around 15k mi I replaced the factory shocks with Bilsteins
and
> >at
> >> >>the
> >> >>same time both F&R stabilizer bars with Hotchkis mounted in poly
> >bushings.
> >> >>These larger diameter bars made a tremendous improvement in overall
> safe
> >> >>handling for a loaded truck and especially with a trailer too. The
> >> factory
> >> >>setup was too tame and the trailer tended to whip the truck like a
dog
> >> >>whose
> >> >>tail is too big for his body! This was especially noted when loads
are
> >> >>real
> >> >>ly heavy and the suspension is almost fully compressed.
> >> >>
> >> >>Cheers
> >> >>
> >> >>Paul Sahlin
> >> >
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