Re: Platinum and the 4.7 WAS Re: blah blah

From: Kevin Reimer (kwreimer@msn.com)
Date: Sun Jan 05 2003 - 18:30:37 EST


The correct plug in Autolite is 5224.
----- Original Message -----
From: tkoth <tkoth@cox.net>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 1:45 PM
Subject: DML: Platinum and the 4.7 WAS Re: DML: blah blah

>
> Ok... NOW we're gettin' somewhere. (I tagged the other
> Bill's respnse on the end of this as well) . It looks like
> the platinums can cause pre-ignition. While I don't feel I
> have been experienceing this too much in my truck, I'll be
> switching back to copper plugs soon.
> Oh well.... it's been 3 years and 30-sumpthin thousand
> miles.... I guess I'll be buying some 3923's this week.
> (since I live in Phoenix I'll do them instead of the 3924's)
> Thanks to everyone for bearing with me with my crazy
> questions!!!
>
> Tim
> (just got in from installing new Bilstein shocks on my
> baby!)
>
> > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 11:18:27 EST
> > From: B1LLYW@aol.com
> > Subject: Platinum and the 4.7 WAS Re: DML: Re: DML Digest
> V5 #711
> >
> > In a message dated 1/5/2003 9:33:01 AM Eastern Standard
> Time, tkoth@cox.net
> > writes:
> >
> > <<< But what I want to know about
> > is the source for the information that a couple people
> > stated that platinum plugs are BAD for the 4.7. I need
> to
> > know more details rather than just a statment that they're
> > bad for it. C'mon folks!!! Help me please!!!>>>
> >
> > From page 8I-20 of my 2002 FSM:
> >
> > "CAUTION: The 4.7L V-8 engine is equipped with copper core
> ground electrode
> > spark plugs. They must be replaced with the same
> type/number spark plug as
> > the original. If another spark plug is substituted,
> pre-ignition will
> > result."
> >
> > Now, this is pretty typical because they want you to buy
> their plugs. But I
> > think the fact that they specify that your truck comes
> with a "copper core
> > ground electrode" plugs is interesting. They could just
> tell you to use the
> > same plugs without getting into the detail of saying
> "copper".
> >
> > My understanding is that the coil on plugs design provides
> more consistent
> > voltage than older systems. At least on the 4.7 however,
> although it
> > provides more consistant voltage, the coil on plug system
> provides less
> > voltage than a traditional coil system. And in fact,
> doesn't provide enough
> > voltage to fire the platinum plugs effectively. That's
> why copper is
> > recommended.
> >
> > Now I just heard something the other day that is
> interesting. Supposedly,
> > the Jeep 4.7 HO motors spec out a special platinum plug
> that they come with.
> > I wonder whether there are ignition improvements (better
> coil packs, etc.) on
> > those motors that could be swapped over to regular 4.7's.
> >
> > Bill White - http://www.bionicdodge.com
> >
> > '02 Dakota QC 4x4, SLT +, 4.7, 5 spd, 3.92 LSD
> > '95 Dakota CC 4x2, SLT, 318, 5 spd, 3.55 LSD
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2003 08:50:35 -0800
> > From: "Saint" <saint1958@cox.net>
> > Subject: DML: RE: Re: RE: Street racing & Common sense or
> lack there of.
> >
> > When they mean fast they mean fast. 80 MPH plus
> >
> > - ---------------------------------------------
> > Steven St.Laurent
> > 2003 Dodge Hemi 5.7 Ram Quad (15.6 sec @ 92 MPH)
> > 2000 Dodge Dakota Hemi (Some idot hit the vehicle)
> > 2000 Roush Ford TT-Mustang (1 of 2 beta vehicles)
> > 1999 Chevy Astro (A.K.A. GM Junk)
> > 1993 Geo Tracker (Amazing vehicle that keeps running)
> > PROJECT CAR:
> > 1992 Suzuki Swift GT (1775lb) Intercooled Turbo - 350HP
> FY-03
> > - --------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------
> > - ------------------
> > Future Purchases:
> > 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10 with a V-10 (replace the Hemi)
> > 2004/5 Dodge Hemi Durango (again for the wife)
> >
> >
> >
> > - -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf
> Of Punch
> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 9:13 PM
> > To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> > Subject: DML: Re: RE: Street racing & Common sense or lack
> there of.
> >
> >
> > ""Saint"" <saint1958@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:JDEFLJGNMJLMLMJBGHDJIELACKAA.saint1958@cox.net...
> > >
> > > Damn....this means that everyone in the fast lane here
> in California are
> > > trying to race...LOL
> >
> > fast lane?
> >
> > isn't the speed limit the same in all the lanes?
> >
> > punch
> >
>
>
> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 10:32:34 -0800
> From: Bill Pitz <dakota@billpitz.com>
> Subject: DML: Re: DML Digest V5 #711 -- 4.7 platinums
>
> At 07:32 AM 1/5/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >Ok, so you're saying that you would still recommend copper
> >over platinum for a stock engine. That is the opposite of
> >what was being recommended in mid 2000 on the list.
> >Basically you can get a tiny bit more power from the copper
> >plugs but they don't last as long as the platinum. So the
> >concesus was then that if your engine is stock and you want
> >longevity, go with platinum. But what I want to know about
> >is the source for the information that a couple people
> >stated that platinum plugs are BAD for the 4.7. I need to
> >know more details rather than just a statment that they're
> >bad for it. C'mon folks!!! Help me please!!!
>
> In the Chilton repair manual that I have, it specifically
> says to NOT use platinum plugs in the 4.7 because it can
> cause pre-ignition.
>
> The consensus from the service department at my dealer was
> also about the same.
>
> - -Bill
>
>
>
>



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