First, many thanks to those who gave suggestions about the temperature fluctuation problem
I was having. Just got done replacing the thermostat. Hopefully that will do it. Seemed
OK at idle. True test will be the ride home from the office tonight. All the hoses were
new and I put in a new waterpump just last year, so I really hope that wasn't the problem.
If this thermostat swap doesn't fix it, gonna try the temp sensor next.
Now, maybe I should tell the whole story. I had my engine replaced by the dealership in
Feb/March (I know, bad idea, but there were many circumstances that made it rather
necessary). All in all, a team of laboratory monkeys could have done a better job (not
that I could have, but these guys are supposed to be professional?) It took them 6 weeks
and three tries to even get it close to right. So while replacing the thermostat, I
discovered more of the aftermath of their butcher job. As many of you have probably
already noticed, I know just enough to be dangerous, and am by no means an expert. Can
anyone tell me where the other end of this is supposed to attach?
http://www.civitasgalleries.com/images/ground.jpg
Since it appears to be the engine ground(?) it's probably not a good thing to have
flapping all over the place in there, huh? Sigh. Maybe this is why my windshield wipers
haven't worked since the engine swap.
Anyway, if anyone could just give me a quick hint where the loose end attaches, I'd be
very grateful.
Thanks again.
-- Josh Moran----- Original Message ----- From: "DML Digest" <owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net> To: <dakota-truck-digest@twistedbits.net> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:00 PM Subject: DML Digest V5 #1018
> > DML Digest Sunday, May 4 2003 Volume 05 : Number 1018 > > > > The subjects discussed in this digest are: > ========== > DML: Battery is In > DML: Re: RE: RE: Viper Fan > DML: This place rocks! > DML: RoadMaster, Thanks > Re: DML: dual batteries > DML: Re: RoadMaster, Thanks > DML: oil pressure > Re: DML: Viper Fan thermostat and relay > DML: RE: oil pressure > DML: Business Console. > DML: Re: 93 Dodge Dakota LE > DML: Another Viper fan wiring question > DML: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question > DML: RE: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question > DML: RE: RE: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question > DML: TEST > DML: RE: TEST > Re: DML: RE: TEST > DML: Re: RE: TEST > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 21:16:56 -0700 > From: "Kyle Vanditmars" <kylevan@telus.net> > Subject: DML: Battery is In > > Alright... I got the baddest mother I could get w/o springing for an Optima. > Motomaster (Canadian Tire house brand) Eliminator battery. 1000cca, 1200ca, > 140min. reserve, and it weighs a friggin' ton! I wouldn't doubt that it's > nearly another half as heavy as the one I replaced. 3 years free > replacement, and another 6 years after that period where the cost of > replacement goes incrementally up for each month. I think it will do. > > I'm gonna give the computer some time to do its learn cycle before I make a > judgement on whether the problem is fixed... At least I can rule out the > battery itself! I think I'm gonna throw new plugs, wires, cap, and rotor > into the beast this tuesday or wednesday. I think it's time to give the > truck a little TLC... > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 01:58:34 -0500 > From: "Mallett, Donald B" <Donald.Mallett@BNSF.com> > Subject: DML: Re: RE: RE: Viper Fan > > I ordered my Viper fan Wednesday. As far as wiring goes I'm going to use the > power lead form the OEM electric fan to throw a relay to turn on the fan to > low speed. Also install a t-stat for high speed. Manual switch will also be > installed. > > Is there the depth needed to install the viper fan and leave the OEM > electric fan in? > > > Saturday the Roadmater get installed!!!!!! > > I see a trip back to Florida in June. A good test for both the Viper fan and > RoadMaster. > > > > > - - -----Original Message----- > > Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 07:07:29 -0400 > From: "Tony Cellana" <acellan1@tampabay.rr.com> > Subject: DML: Re: RE: RE: Viper Fan > > You can always leave the stock electric fan (on those trucks that have > them), and wire the Viper as a single speed. Change the wiring (manually) > to be using the high speed in summer, and the low speed in cooler times. > Thats the way I'm setup. > > My wiring is very basic compared to your diagram, but serves my purposes > well. > > On based on a simple temp sensor (195 On, 160 Off) OR manual switch. I > still want to hook up a seperate trigger from the A/C on as well. I just > have to get under the hood to do it in the midst of all the other little > projects that are already going on. (Detroit Locker, PCM swap (custom burn), > valve spring upgrade, NX plate for M1 2bbl - guinea pigging this one with > NX) > > TonyC > > > - - -----Original Message----- > > > - -- > *------------------------------Y2KOTA------------------------------* > Don Mallett > Y2K QC 4.7L Auto SLT+ > http://www.mallettservices.com/y2kota.html > http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/QwkvWz@DAJFf6/profile.htm > *-------- 9-11-2001, NEVER AGAIN... MY FRIENDS, NEVER AGAIN!-------* > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 04:30:52 -0400 > From: "Dave Downing" <ded74@yahoo.com> > Subject: DML: This place rocks! > > Hey guys, just checking in from Australia :) It's nice to be on dry land > finally. Sorry to report that there are no Dakotas here, at least I haven't > seen one yet. Lots of Holdens tho, which for those that don't know is the > company that makes the car that GM is going to use for the new GTO in the > states, they're pretty sharp. Can't wait to get back on Monday and go get > my baby out of storage!!! > > - -- > Dave > '02 FR RC R/T > '03 BS CC 4x4...coming soon! > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 03:51:13 -0500 > From: "Mallett, Donald B" <Donald.Mallett@BNSF.com> > Subject: DML: RoadMaster, Thanks > > I think We (DML) should send RoadMaster a letter thanking them for that > great sale on the RAS for the Dakotas. Maybe something they could post on > their site. > > We must have saved well over a grand plus between all of the set we ordered. > > > Just my 2 cents worth here. > > P.S. Should start installing my RAS in about 6 hours from the writing of > this. > > - -- > *------------------------------Y2KOTA------------------------------* > Don Mallett > Y2K QC 4.7L Auto SLT+ > http://www.mallettservices.com/y2kota.html > http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/QwkvWz@DAJFf6/profile.htm > *-------- 9-11-2001, NEVER AGAIN... MY FRIENDS, NEVER AGAIN!-------* > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 07:03:57 -0400 > From: Bob Tom <tigers@bserv.com> > Subject: Re: DML: dual batteries > > At 12:44 PM 5/2/03 -0400, you wrote: > >I understand. Fast is never fast enough. Was 13.099, now 12.124 (juice). > >Detroit is being installed as I write this, PCM is due back from a reflash > >to move shift points, and remove rpm limit, valve springs tomorrow. So > >hopefully 12s NA and 11s with bottle on Sun morning with a private group > >rental of the track. Fingers crossed TonyC > > Hope you get your 12s NA! > > If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to know how the pcm reflash works out when you > get it back. From what shift points to what shift points, etc. Thanks. > > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 07:17:03 -0400 > From: "Dave Downing" <ded74@yahoo.com> > Subject: DML: Re: RoadMaster, Thanks > > I agree Don, that was an awesome price. Mine should be waiting for me when > I get home on Monday, then I just need to buy the truck it's gonna go on :) > > - -Dave > '02 FR RC R/T > '03 BS CC 4x4...coming soon! > > ""Mallett, Donald B"" <Donald.Mallett@BNSF.com> wrote in message > news:0F45A7A5E62CD211B8CC0008C7A402F013BCD61D@ftwntexmp002.bnsf.com... > > > > I think We (DML) should send RoadMaster a letter thanking them for that > > great sale on the RAS for the Dakotas. Maybe something they could post on > > their site. > > > > We must have saved well over a grand plus between all of the set we > ordered. > > > > > > Just my 2 cents worth here. > > > > P.S. Should start installing my RAS in about 6 hours from the writing of > > this. > > > > -- > > *------------------------------Y2KOTA------------------------------* > > Don Mallett > > Y2K QC 4.7L Auto SLT+ > > http://www.mallettservices.com/y2kota.html > > http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/QwkvWz@DAJFf6/profile.htm > > *-------- 9-11-2001, NEVER AGAIN... MY FRIENDS, NEVER AGAIN!-------* > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 08:52:07 -0500 > From: spook <richardfiser@mchsi.com> > Subject: DML: oil pressure > > What should the oil pressure normally be for a 3.9 at idle? I seem to be > running 30 at idle but at 1500 it rises to around 60. That is after warm > up. I changed oil, Pennzoil 10W30 and Fram filter. I'm not absolutely > sure but I think it ran around 50 at idle, before the oil change. > Maybe this problem is my imagination? [:^) > > - -- > $pook > Be American Buy American > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 10:01:23 EDT > From: JAMEPC@aol.com > Subject: Re: DML: Viper Fan thermostat and relay > > I got the 185/170 kit but returned it for the thermostat only. I wanted just > the thermostat (it's called the replacement thermostat) because I need 3 > Mopar relays (because 2 Mopar relays will fit in the GenII Power Distribution > Center) and needed more and heavier wire. > James > > In a message dated 5/2/2003 4:36:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, > bpracing@worldnet.att.net writes: > > > Has anyone considered a thermostat and relay kit from Painless Performance? > > > > Go to http://www.painlessperformance.com/catalogframe.htm > > Click on Relay Kits > > Check out FAN-THOM II ELECTRIC FAN RELAY WITH THERMOSTAT PROTECTION > > > > Anyone know why one of these kits wouldn't work ok as a starting point? > > These kits aren't exactly configured for 2-speed fans or AC but you do have > > a choice of thermostats and the wiring, relay and circuit breaker. Kit > > sells for 59.99 at Jeg's and Summit. > > > > Thanks, > > RayB > > http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 09:12:08 -0600 > From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@texas.net> > Subject: DML: RE: oil pressure > > Normally, about 20-30psi at idle and up to 70-80psi under WOT higher > RPM...with 60-70psi being normal cruise. > > You're well within normal specs. > > - - Bernd > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of spook > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 7:52 AM > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net > Subject: DML: oil pressure > > > > What should the oil pressure normally be for a 3.9 at idle? I seem to be > > running 30 at idle but at 1500 it rises to around 60. That is after warm > > up. I changed oil, Pennzoil 10W30 and Fram filter. I'm not absolutely > sure but I think it ran around 50 at idle, before the oil change. Maybe > this problem is my imagination? [:^) > > - -- > $pook > Be American Buy American > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 12:07:18 -0400 > From: Droo <03dakotaCC4.7_4x4@comcast.net> > Subject: DML: Business Console. > > Just spoke to my dealer and they spoke with Dodge about the center > armrest. Dodge says there isn't anything they can do on the corporate > level. My dealer says they'll give me $100 certificate towards parts and > service just cause they are nice guys. I asked my salesman to see if > they can order that part seperately. He said he'd check into it. I'm > sure is $200 retail and they'll expect me to pay for that shit. I thinkI > should only pay wholesale. Bastards. I am so fucking unahppy about this. > > - -- > - -Droo > Email: 03dakotaCC4.7_4x4@comcast.net > > "Remember: No one has the right to touch you in your bathing suit area." -Jack > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:37:09 -0800 > From: "Jon" <jonsdak@midmaine.com> > Subject: DML: Re: 93 Dodge Dakota LE > > The timing chain. > > - -- > - -Jon > jonsdak@midmaine.com > http://jonsdakota.tripod.com > 1996 Dodge Dakota Sport 4X4, 3.9L V6, 42RE, 3.92:1 8.25 axle, "BackRack" > Headache Rack, Dodge Motorsports decals, steering wheel cover, and front > license plate, diamond-plate bedrail covers, Lund VentVisors, Lund > BugShield, Jensen MP-3310 CD/MP3 Receiver, Pioneer TS-G1347's in front, > TS-A5713's in rear, Bulldog RS-82 Remote Starter > "Danny Burrows" <havenx@ksni.net> wrote in message > news:3EB1B144.2070806@ksni.net... > > > > Uhh on a 93 Dakota what might cause a rattle in the engine at idle? Its > > not the valves, I took the belt off and its nothing that the belt runs. > > any ideas? It also does not idel worth a crap. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 16:53:06 -0500 > From: "John Neff" <jndneff@texas.net> > Subject: DML: Another Viper fan wiring question > > Has anyone looked at how the actual Viper controls the 2 speed fan? Unless the fan speeds > are controlled by the computer, wouldn't whatever Dodge is using be the easiest method to > copy? What does the Viper use for a temp sensor? If it is a dual switch similar to the > Saab unit, could the factory sensor in the Dakota be replaced by this piece? > > John > http://jndneff.home.texas.net/dakota/dakota.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 17:54:57 -0600 > From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@texas.net> > Subject: DML: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question > > Check your email John. I sent ya the wiring schematic for the Viper Fan > relay system. > > - - Bernd > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of John Neff > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 3:53 PM > To: Dakota Mailing List > Subject: DML: Another Viper fan wiring question > > > > Has anyone looked at how the actual Viper controls the 2 speed fan? > Unless the fan speeds are controlled by the computer, wouldn't whatever > Dodge is using be the easiest method to copy? What does the Viper use > for a temp sensor? If it is a dual switch similar to the Saab unit, > could the factory sensor in the Dakota be replaced by this piece? > > John > http://jndneff.home.texas.net/dakota/dakota.html > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 16:08:20 -0700 > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com> > Subject: DML: RE: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of > > John Neff > > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 3:53 PM > > To: Dakota Mailing List > > Subject: DML: Another Viper fan wiring question > > > > > > > > Has anyone looked at how the actual Viper controls the 2 speed fan? > > Unless the fan speeds are controlled by the computer, > > wouldn't whatever > > Dodge is using be the easiest method to copy? What does the Viper use > > for a temp sensor? If it is a dual switch similar to the Saab unit, > > could the factory sensor in the Dakota be replaced by this piece? > > > > John > > http://jndneff.home.texas.net/dakota/dakota.html > > > That isn't going to work so well with the Dakota and a computer that doesn't > want to turn the fan on until the coolant temp reaches 210(with the A/C > off). > > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 18:16:54 -0600 > From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@texas.net> > Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question > > There is a way....just not with the stock system Bob. > > - - Bernd > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Bob Mankin > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 5:08 PM > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net > Subject: DML: RE: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question > > > > That isn't going to work so well with the Dakota and a computer that > doesn't want to turn the fan on until the coolant temp reaches 210(with > the A/C off). > > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 23:18:42 EDT > From: SEMIHEMI01@aol.com > Subject: DML: TEST > > TEST sent 10:18pm CDT... "Sir Bill" > > SEMIHEMI01@AOL.COM> KB SuperCharged, 4.7L, 2001, QC, > http://hometown.aol.com/semihemi01/index.html <or> http://southernmopar.org/ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 23:32:52 -0400 > From: "RayB" <bpracing@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: DML: RE: TEST > > Appears to be no one on but you and I. I guess the young guys have better > things to do. :-) > > RayB > http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of > > SEMIHEMI01@aol.com > > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:19 PM > > To: AOL@dakota-truck.net > > Subject: DML: TEST > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TEST sent 10:18pm CDT... "Sir Bill" > > > > SEMIHEMI01@AOL.COM> KB SuperCharged, 4.7L, 2001, QC, > > http://hometown.aol.com/semihemi01/index.html <or> > > http://southernmopar.org/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 23:41:53 EDT > From: Olznut@aol.com > Subject: Re: DML: RE: TEST > > In a message dated 5/3/2003 8:33:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > bpracing@worldnet.att.net writes: > > > > > Appears to be no one on but you and I. I guess the young guys have better > > things to do. :-) > > > > RayB > > http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html > > > > Not really, it's pouring rain here and getting to my fun places is scary in > this town when wet, also, I don't think cleaning out rain gutters qualifies > as fun, found out today they were plugged :( > > Ed "Olznut" Halterman Sunland, Ca '01 Dakota Quad Cab SLT+ 4.7L 4x4 "Silver > Streak" '66 Olds F-85 330 V-8, Intense Blue "Project Olds" Will Be Finished > Sometime This Millenium!! > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 23:03:22 -0500 > From: "Jon N. Benignus" <blkwidow1@primary.net> > Subject: DML: Re: RE: TEST > > Nah, I'm here, > Jon > STL MO > > ------------------------------ > > End of DML Digest V5 #1018 > ************************** >
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