Re: Re: Temperature Problem

From: greg conner (dodgeboy93@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun May 04 2003 - 15:52:11 EDT


It is an engine ground strap, attached to the head using one of the
boltholes on the rear of the head.

Greg Conner
1996 RC
3.9 hybrid

>From: "Josh Moran" <jmoran@jvlnet.com>
>Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>Subject: DML: Re: Temperature Problem
>Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 14:10:19 -0500
>
>
>First, many thanks to those who gave suggestions about the temperature
>fluctuation problem
>I was having. Just got done replacing the thermostat. Hopefully that will
>do it. Seemed
>OK at idle. True test will be the ride home from the office tonight. All
>the hoses were
>new and I put in a new waterpump just last year, so I really hope that
>wasn't the problem.
>If this thermostat swap doesn't fix it, gonna try the temp sensor next.
>
>Now, maybe I should tell the whole story. I had my engine replaced by the
>dealership in
>Feb/March (I know, bad idea, but there were many circumstances that made it
>rather
>necessary). All in all, a team of laboratory monkeys could have done a
>better job (not
>that I could have, but these guys are supposed to be professional?) It
>took them 6 weeks
>and three tries to even get it close to right. So while replacing the
>thermostat, I
>discovered more of the aftermath of their butcher job. As many of you have
>probably
>already noticed, I know just enough to be dangerous, and am by no means an
>expert. Can
>anyone tell me where the other end of this is supposed to attach?
>
>http://www.civitasgalleries.com/images/ground.jpg
>
>Since it appears to be the engine ground(?) it's probably not a good thing
>to have
>flapping all over the place in there, huh? Sigh. Maybe this is why my
>windshield wipers
>haven't worked since the engine swap.
>
>Anyway, if anyone could just give me a quick hint where the loose end
>attaches, I'd be
>very grateful.
>
>Thanks again.
>
>--
>Josh Moran
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DML Digest" <owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net>
>To: <dakota-truck-digest@twistedbits.net>
>Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:00 PM
>Subject: DML Digest V5 #1018
>
>
> >
> > DML Digest Sunday, May 4 2003 Volume 05 : Number
>1018
> >
> >
> >
> > The subjects discussed in this digest are:
> > ==========
> > DML: Battery is In
> > DML: Re: RE: RE: Viper Fan
> > DML: This place rocks!
> > DML: RoadMaster, Thanks
> > Re: DML: dual batteries
> > DML: Re: RoadMaster, Thanks
> > DML: oil pressure
> > Re: DML: Viper Fan thermostat and relay
> > DML: RE: oil pressure
> > DML: Business Console.
> > DML: Re: 93 Dodge Dakota LE
> > DML: Another Viper fan wiring question
> > DML: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question
> > DML: RE: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question
> > DML: RE: RE: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question
> > DML: TEST
> > DML: RE: TEST
> > Re: DML: RE: TEST
> > DML: Re: RE: TEST
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 21:16:56 -0700
> > From: "Kyle Vanditmars" <kylevan@telus.net>
> > Subject: DML: Battery is In
> >
> > Alright... I got the baddest mother I could get w/o springing for an
>Optima.
> > Motomaster (Canadian Tire house brand) Eliminator battery. 1000cca,
>1200ca,
> > 140min. reserve, and it weighs a friggin' ton! I wouldn't doubt that
>it's
> > nearly another half as heavy as the one I replaced. 3 years free
> > replacement, and another 6 years after that period where the cost of
> > replacement goes incrementally up for each month. I think it will do.
> >
> > I'm gonna give the computer some time to do its learn cycle before I
>make a
> > judgement on whether the problem is fixed... At least I can rule out
>the
> > battery itself! I think I'm gonna throw new plugs, wires, cap, and
>rotor
> > into the beast this tuesday or wednesday. I think it's time to give the
> > truck a little TLC...
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 01:58:34 -0500
> > From: "Mallett, Donald B" <Donald.Mallett@BNSF.com>
> > Subject: DML: Re: RE: RE: Viper Fan
> >
> > I ordered my Viper fan Wednesday. As far as wiring goes I'm going to use
>the
> > power lead form the OEM electric fan to throw a relay to turn on the fan
>to
> > low speed. Also install a t-stat for high speed. Manual switch will also
>be
> > installed.
> >
> > Is there the depth needed to install the viper fan and leave the OEM
> > electric fan in?
> >
> >
> > Saturday the Roadmater get installed!!!!!!
> >
> > I see a trip back to Florida in June. A good test for both the Viper fan
>and
> > RoadMaster.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - - -----Original Message-----
> >
> > Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 07:07:29 -0400
> > From: "Tony Cellana" <acellan1@tampabay.rr.com>
> > Subject: DML: Re: RE: RE: Viper Fan
> >
> > You can always leave the stock electric fan (on those trucks that have
> > them), and wire the Viper as a single speed. Change the wiring
>(manually)
> > to be using the high speed in summer, and the low speed in cooler times.
> > Thats the way I'm setup.
> >
> > My wiring is very basic compared to your diagram, but serves my purposes
> > well.
> >
> > On based on a simple temp sensor (195 On, 160 Off) OR manual switch. I
> > still want to hook up a seperate trigger from the A/C on as well. I
>just
> > have to get under the hood to do it in the midst of all the other little
> > projects that are already going on. (Detroit Locker, PCM swap (custom
>burn),
> > valve spring upgrade, NX plate for M1 2bbl - guinea pigging this one
>with
> > NX)
> >
> > TonyC
> >
> >
> > - - -----Original Message-----
> >
> >
> > - --
> > *------------------------------Y2KOTA------------------------------*
> > Don Mallett
> > Y2K QC 4.7L Auto SLT+
> > http://www.mallettservices.com/y2kota.html
> > http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/QwkvWz@DAJFf6/profile.htm
> > *-------- 9-11-2001, NEVER AGAIN... MY FRIENDS, NEVER AGAIN!-------*
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 04:30:52 -0400
> > From: "Dave Downing" <ded74@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: DML: This place rocks!
> >
> > Hey guys, just checking in from Australia :) It's nice to be on dry
>land
> > finally. Sorry to report that there are no Dakotas here, at least I
>haven't
> > seen one yet. Lots of Holdens tho, which for those that don't know is
>the
> > company that makes the car that GM is going to use for the new GTO in
>the
> > states, they're pretty sharp. Can't wait to get back on Monday and go
>get
> > my baby out of storage!!!
> >
> > - --
> > Dave
> > '02 FR RC R/T
> > '03 BS CC 4x4...coming soon!
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 03:51:13 -0500
> > From: "Mallett, Donald B" <Donald.Mallett@BNSF.com>
> > Subject: DML: RoadMaster, Thanks
> >
> > I think We (DML) should send RoadMaster a letter thanking them for that
> > great sale on the RAS for the Dakotas. Maybe something they could post
>on
> > their site.
> >
> > We must have saved well over a grand plus between all of the set we
>ordered.
> >
> >
> > Just my 2 cents worth here.
> >
> > P.S. Should start installing my RAS in about 6 hours from the writing
>of
> > this.
> >
> > - --
> > *------------------------------Y2KOTA------------------------------*
> > Don Mallett
> > Y2K QC 4.7L Auto SLT+
> > http://www.mallettservices.com/y2kota.html
> > http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/QwkvWz@DAJFf6/profile.htm
> > *-------- 9-11-2001, NEVER AGAIN... MY FRIENDS, NEVER AGAIN!-------*
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 07:03:57 -0400
> > From: Bob Tom <tigers@bserv.com>
> > Subject: Re: DML: dual batteries
> >
> > At 12:44 PM 5/2/03 -0400, you wrote:
> > >I understand. Fast is never fast enough. Was 13.099, now 12.124
>(juice).
> > >Detroit is being installed as I write this, PCM is due back from a
>reflash
> > >to move shift points, and remove rpm limit, valve springs tomorrow. So
> > >hopefully 12s NA and 11s with bottle on Sun morning with a private
>group
> > >rental of the track. Fingers crossed TonyC
> >
> > Hope you get your 12s NA!
> >
> > If you wouldn't mind, I'd like to know how the pcm reflash works out
>when you
> > get it back. From what shift points to what shift points, etc. Thanks.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 07:17:03 -0400
> > From: "Dave Downing" <ded74@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: DML: Re: RoadMaster, Thanks
> >
> > I agree Don, that was an awesome price. Mine should be waiting for me
>when
> > I get home on Monday, then I just need to buy the truck it's gonna go on
>:)
> >
> > - -Dave
> > '02 FR RC R/T
> > '03 BS CC 4x4...coming soon!
> >
> > ""Mallett, Donald B"" <Donald.Mallett@BNSF.com> wrote in message
> > news:0F45A7A5E62CD211B8CC0008C7A402F013BCD61D@ftwntexmp002.bnsf.com...
> > >
> > > I think We (DML) should send RoadMaster a letter thanking them for
>that
> > > great sale on the RAS for the Dakotas. Maybe something they could post
>on
> > > their site.
> > >
> > > We must have saved well over a grand plus between all of the set we
> > ordered.
> > >
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents worth here.
> > >
> > > P.S. Should start installing my RAS in about 6 hours from the writing
>of
> > > this.
> > >
> > > --
> > > *------------------------------Y2KOTA------------------------------*
> > > Don Mallett
> > > Y2K QC 4.7L Auto SLT+
> > > http://www.mallettservices.com/y2kota.html
> > > http://www.dakota-truck.net/profiles/dakota/QwkvWz@DAJFf6/profile.htm
> > > *-------- 9-11-2001, NEVER AGAIN... MY FRIENDS, NEVER AGAIN!-------*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 08:52:07 -0500
> > From: spook <richardfiser@mchsi.com>
> > Subject: DML: oil pressure
> >
> > What should the oil pressure normally be for a 3.9 at idle? I seem to be
> > running 30 at idle but at 1500 it rises to around 60. That is after warm
> > up. I changed oil, Pennzoil 10W30 and Fram filter. I'm not absolutely
> > sure but I think it ran around 50 at idle, before the oil change.
> > Maybe this problem is my imagination? [:^)
> >
> > - --
> > $pook
> > Be American Buy American
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 10:01:23 EDT
> > From: JAMEPC@aol.com
> > Subject: Re: DML: Viper Fan thermostat and relay
> >
> > I got the 185/170 kit but returned it for the thermostat only. I wanted
>just
> > the thermostat (it's called the replacement thermostat) because I need 3
> > Mopar relays (because 2 Mopar relays will fit in the GenII Power
>Distribution
> > Center) and needed more and heavier wire.
> > James
> >
> > In a message dated 5/2/2003 4:36:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > bpracing@worldnet.att.net writes:
> >
> > > Has anyone considered a thermostat and relay kit from Painless
>Performance?
> > >
> > > Go to http://www.painlessperformance.com/catalogframe.htm
> > > Click on Relay Kits
> > > Check out FAN-THOM II ELECTRIC FAN RELAY WITH THERMOSTAT PROTECTION
> > >
> > > Anyone know why one of these kits wouldn't work ok as a starting
>point?
> > > These kits aren't exactly configured for 2-speed fans or AC but you do
>have
> > > a choice of thermostats and the wiring, relay and circuit breaker.
>Kit
> > > sells for 59.99 at Jeg's and Summit.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > RayB
> > > http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 09:12:08 -0600
> > From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@texas.net>
> > Subject: DML: RE: oil pressure
> >
> > Normally, about 20-30psi at idle and up to 70-80psi under WOT higher
> > RPM...with 60-70psi being normal cruise.
> >
> > You're well within normal specs.
> >
> > - - Bernd
> >
> > - -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of spook
> > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 7:52 AM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: DML: oil pressure
> >
> >
> >
> > What should the oil pressure normally be for a 3.9 at idle? I seem to be
> >
> > running 30 at idle but at 1500 it rises to around 60. That is after warm
> >
> > up. I changed oil, Pennzoil 10W30 and Fram filter. I'm not absolutely
> > sure but I think it ran around 50 at idle, before the oil change. Maybe
> > this problem is my imagination? [:^)
> >
> > - --
> > $pook
> > Be American Buy American
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 12:07:18 -0400
> > From: Droo <03dakotaCC4.7_4x4@comcast.net>
> > Subject: DML: Business Console.
> >
> > Just spoke to my dealer and they spoke with Dodge about the center
> > armrest. Dodge says there isn't anything they can do on the corporate
> > level. My dealer says they'll give me $100 certificate towards parts and
> > service just cause they are nice guys. I asked my salesman to see if
> > they can order that part seperately. He said he'd check into it. I'm
> > sure is $200 retail and they'll expect me to pay for that shit. I thinkI
> > should only pay wholesale. Bastards. I am so fucking unahppy about this.
> >
> > - --
> > - -Droo
> > Email: 03dakotaCC4.7_4x4@comcast.net
> >
> > "Remember: No one has the right to touch you in your bathing suit
>area." -Jack
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:37:09 -0800
> > From: "Jon" <jonsdak@midmaine.com>
> > Subject: DML: Re: 93 Dodge Dakota LE
> >
> > The timing chain.
> >
> > - --
> > - -Jon
> > jonsdak@midmaine.com
> > http://jonsdakota.tripod.com
> > 1996 Dodge Dakota Sport 4X4, 3.9L V6, 42RE, 3.92:1 8.25 axle, "BackRack"
> > Headache Rack, Dodge Motorsports decals, steering wheel cover, and
>front
> > license plate, diamond-plate bedrail covers, Lund VentVisors, Lund
> > BugShield, Jensen MP-3310 CD/MP3 Receiver, Pioneer TS-G1347's in front,
> > TS-A5713's in rear, Bulldog RS-82 Remote Starter
> > "Danny Burrows" <havenx@ksni.net> wrote in message
> > news:3EB1B144.2070806@ksni.net...
> > >
> > > Uhh on a 93 Dakota what might cause a rattle in the engine at idle?
>Its
> > > not the valves, I took the belt off and its nothing that the belt
>runs.
> > > any ideas? It also does not idel worth a crap.
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 16:53:06 -0500
> > From: "John Neff" <jndneff@texas.net>
> > Subject: DML: Another Viper fan wiring question
> >
> > Has anyone looked at how the actual Viper controls the 2 speed fan?
>Unless the fan
>speeds
> > are controlled by the computer, wouldn't whatever Dodge is using be the
>easiest method
>to
> > copy? What does the Viper use for a temp sensor? If it is a dual switch
>similar to the
> > Saab unit, could the factory sensor in the Dakota be replaced by this
>piece?
> >
> > John
> > http://jndneff.home.texas.net/dakota/dakota.html
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 17:54:57 -0600
> > From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@texas.net>
> > Subject: DML: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question
> >
> > Check your email John. I sent ya the wiring schematic for the Viper Fan
> > relay system.
> >
> > - - Bernd
> >
> > - -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of John Neff
> > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 3:53 PM
> > To: Dakota Mailing List
> > Subject: DML: Another Viper fan wiring question
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone looked at how the actual Viper controls the 2 speed fan?
> > Unless the fan speeds are controlled by the computer, wouldn't whatever
> > Dodge is using be the easiest method to copy? What does the Viper use
> > for a temp sensor? If it is a dual switch similar to the Saab unit,
> > could the factory sensor in the Dakota be replaced by this piece?
> >
> > John
> > http://jndneff.home.texas.net/dakota/dakota.html
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 16:08:20 -0700
> > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > Subject: DML: RE: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> > > John Neff
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 3:53 PM
> > > To: Dakota Mailing List
> > > Subject: DML: Another Viper fan wiring question
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone looked at how the actual Viper controls the 2 speed fan?
> > > Unless the fan speeds are controlled by the computer,
> > > wouldn't whatever
> > > Dodge is using be the easiest method to copy? What does the Viper use
> > > for a temp sensor? If it is a dual switch similar to the Saab unit,
> > > could the factory sensor in the Dakota be replaced by this piece?
> > >
> > > John
> > > http://jndneff.home.texas.net/dakota/dakota.html
> >
> >
> > That isn't going to work so well with the Dakota and a computer that
>doesn't
> > want to turn the fan on until the coolant temp reaches 210(with the A/C
> > off).
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 18:16:54 -0600
> > From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@texas.net>
> > Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question
> >
> > There is a way....just not with the stock system Bob.
> >
> > - - Bernd
> >
> > - -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Bob Mankin
> > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 5:08 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: DML: RE: RE: Another Viper fan wiring question
> >
> >
> >
> > That isn't going to work so well with the Dakota and a computer that
> > doesn't want to turn the fan on until the coolant temp reaches 210(with
> > the A/C off).
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 23:18:42 EDT
> > From: SEMIHEMI01@aol.com
> > Subject: DML: TEST
> >
> > TEST sent 10:18pm CDT... "Sir Bill"
> >
> > SEMIHEMI01@AOL.COM> KB SuperCharged, 4.7L, 2001, QC,
> > http://hometown.aol.com/semihemi01/index.html <or>
>http://southernmopar.org/
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 23:32:52 -0400
> > From: "RayB" <bpracing@worldnet.att.net>
> > Subject: DML: RE: TEST
> >
> > Appears to be no one on but you and I. I guess the young guys have
>better
> > things to do. :-)
> >
> > RayB
> > http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > > SEMIHEMI01@aol.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 11:19 PM
> > > To: AOL@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: DML: TEST
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > TEST sent 10:18pm CDT... "Sir Bill"
> > >
> > > SEMIHEMI01@AOL.COM> KB SuperCharged, 4.7L, 2001, QC,
> > > http://hometown.aol.com/semihemi01/index.html <or>
> > > http://southernmopar.org/
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 23:41:53 EDT
> > From: Olznut@aol.com
> > Subject: Re: DML: RE: TEST
> >
> > In a message dated 5/3/2003 8:33:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > bpracing@worldnet.att.net writes:
> >
> > >
> > > Appears to be no one on but you and I. I guess the young guys have
>better
> > > things to do. :-)
> > >
> > > RayB
> > > http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html
> > >
> >
> > Not really, it's pouring rain here and getting to my fun places is scary
>in
> > this town when wet, also, I don't think cleaning out rain gutters
>qualifies
> > as fun, found out today they were plugged :(
> >
> > Ed "Olznut" Halterman Sunland, Ca '01 Dakota Quad Cab SLT+ 4.7L 4x4
>"Silver
> > Streak" '66 Olds F-85 330 V-8, Intense Blue "Project Olds" Will Be
>Finished
> > Sometime This Millenium!!
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 23:03:22 -0500
> > From: "Jon N. Benignus" <blkwidow1@primary.net>
> > Subject: DML: Re: RE: TEST
> >
> > Nah, I'm here,
> > Jon
> > STL MO
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > End of DML Digest V5 #1018
> > **************************
> >
>

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