RE: RE: Novi-2000 Dyno #'s

From: Bernd D. Ratsch (bernd@texas.net)
Date: Sun Jul 20 2003 - 22:30:58 EDT


Interesting reading. Haven't heard Duntov's name in over 13 years.

- Bernd

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Bob Mankin
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:16 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: RE: DML: RE: Novi-2000 Dyno #'s

Scott,

Advance only nets you gains to a point in a blower motor, assuming you
have thrown enough I/C, race gas or water-alcohol at the setup to
control detonation. There isn't a whole lot left on the table above 24
degrees and this has been proven time and again(Ford, Chebby, Dodge, the
principle is all the same). The point of the post was to get people to
realize that N/A timing and S/C timing are two entirely different
animals. Shooting for 30-32 total on a blower motor is a waste of time.

What did you walk away with for total advance from The Dyno Shop tune?

For anyone wanting some reading on this stuff, Zora Duntov wrote a good
article thats online. Talks about flame speed in forced indution and how
it relates to timing, negative/net torque etc and includes a nice graph
explaining peak cylinder pressure. Explains it all far better than I
can:

http://www.n2performance.com/lectures/internalcombustion.pdf

Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of Scott
> Quaranta
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 10:36 AM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: Novi-2000 Dyno #'s
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> Point takin....
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> and having graduated from the been there and done that school of hard

> knocks and done bit of real time stuff now.... I dont want to tell
> anyone how to tune, but the power increase's above 24 degrees are
> real weather its
> on a 408 or a 360 in this configuration
>
> At the dyno I stayed conservative on the timing and I can safely run
> 91 on the street and hammer it, I agree with you on the tuning
>
> I had a bunch of guys tell me that they tune till it pings and back
> off...hmmm well we started conservative and ran with what
> made power..!
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