RE: injectors

From: greg conner (dodgeboy93@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Aug 23 2003 - 13:21:18 EDT


It should, the flange is right for a normal holley 4bbl. The treads just
havent been machined in to bolt it down. It originally came as a 2bbl.

Dan was gonna do the work on it when he got some time but then I just kinda
forgot about it. Maybe I'll get back intouch with him now that some
interest has been sparked..

Greg Conner
1996 RC
3.9 hybrid

>From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
>Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 10:07:40 -0700
>
>
>Greg, any idea if the 2-4 bbl adapter for the M1 would fit on that thing?
>
>Bob
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > greg conner
> > Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:01 AM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> >
> >
> >
> > I happen to of had a mopar m1 single plain 3.9 intake for the
> > magnum motor.
> > I was going to tap it for injector bosses but after talking
> > with a few
> > people even with a huge 2bbl adapter teh plenum volume would
> > be way to small
> > for most applications. A buddy of mine has it in his garage
> > currently
> > collecting dust.
> >
> >
> > http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84516.jpg
> >
> > http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84513.jpg
> > http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84509.jpg
> >
> > it started life as a 2bbl manifold, it kinda had a 2bbl
> > flange inside of a
> > 4bbl flange. The guy I got it from had cut it out to use a
> > 4bbl carb on his
> > 95 dak. He never got around to using it and the manifold has
> > never been on
> > a motor
> >
> > Greg Conner
> > 1996 RC
> > 3.9 hybrid
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > >Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > >To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > >Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > >Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:24:35 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >Ron, the reality is you're on the fringe with a hotrod Mopar
> > V6 and even
> > >further out with a blower. Not many options currently available, I'm
> > >afraid.
> > >
> > >However........... :-)
> > >
> > >Got some things cooking for the V8 that theoretically could
> > be adapted to
> > >the V6 if you were willing to tackle some machine work.
> > >
> > >Any chance you could track down a single plane aluminum
> > intake for that
> > >thing? Got any pics of what they look like? I thought MP
> > offered one, but
> > >it
> > >looks like it's been discontinued.
> > >
> > >Bob
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > >[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > scsilverdak
> > >Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:16 PM
> > >To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > >Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >I may (or may not) put my foot in my mouth
> > >with the following comment........
> > >
> > >I have seen the tables for fuel and spark on the stand-alone
> > management
> > >systems and Yes they are very intimidating to say the least!
> > >
> > >I can only imagine what the tables look like on the DC, GM,
> > and Ford stock
> > >PCM's.........
> > >
> > >So a experienced tuner with the software needed to properly tune a
> > >customer's car or truck would be money well spent......$500.00
> > >would be a bargain..........
> > >
> > >I do have a legit question.......
> > >
> > >BUT what do you do when you have an application (Magnum v6)
> > and no one
> > >currently has a flash?.........and yes, I do know there are
> > somethings
> > >currently being developed.
> > >
> > >Are your only options the dreaded "magic box"
> > >devices such as Superchips Race ICON or the Apexi A/F
> > controllers, and
> > >billet FMU's to control the fuel curve?..........
> > >
> > >I've had to resort to these help tune my combination and I
> > will need to
> > >retune soon.
> > >
> > >So I'm looking at my options.......
> > >
> > >Ron-
> > >'01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > >Street ,Strip, and Show
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > >To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > >Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:14 PM
> > >Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, you can buy a software tuner like Tweecer for the
> > Fords. But people
> > > > still are more willing to spend the $500 one time to have
> > an experienced
> > > > tuner do the tune for them. If you're not familiar with
> > fuel and spark
> > > > tables(ignoring the dozens of periphery variables), the
> > first time you
> > >open
> > > > one up will help you to understand how intimidating they
> > can be. The
> > > > learning curve is not trivial.
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf
> > Of Chad Evans
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:57 AM
> > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > actually you can get a stand alone system for 800 bucks
> > > > for mustangs/capri 5.0's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:15 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Work well in what?
> > > > >
> > > > > Find me one nationally recognized and respected tuner
> > who likes FMUs
> > >or
> > > > > "rising rate regulators" as you like to call them. You
> > take your 5L
> > > > > Mustang
> > > > > to be tweaked by one of the better tuners(much deeper
> > forced induction
> > > > > knowledge base) and they'll tell you to lose it before
> > they even touch
> > > > > your
> > > > > stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > Reason they suck is they are inconsistent and the computer is
> > >constantly
> > > > > having to hit a moving target with respect to fuel
> > pressure. Used only
> > >by
> > > > > those without any better tools.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On
> > Behalf Of Bernd D.
> > > > > Ratsch
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:36 PM
> > > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And contrary to "other opinions"...they do work very well.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Bernd
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> > > > > scsilverdak
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:56 PM
> > > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok, so how about a Boost Proportional Regulator for better fuel
> > > > > control.......hehehehe!
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.bellengineering.net/fmu2020.htm
> > > > >
> > > > > This is what's going to replace the FMU I'm currently
> > running, it's
> > >much
> > > > > better design and easily adjusts to achieve the fuel
> > curve I need.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron-
> > > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:14 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Personally I wouldn't put "better" and "rising rate
> > regulator" in
> > >the
> > > > > > same sentence, but that's just me ;-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > > > > > scsilverdak
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:24 PM
> > > > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I still need to install a Rising Rate regulator, for
> > better fuel
> > > > > > control.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also need to have the PCM flashed for better fuel
> > mapping and to
> > >fix
> > > > >
> > > > > > the timing issues once and for all....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ron-
> > > > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > > > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:49 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ron, the '01 and later stuff idles in closed loop.
> > Another little
> > > > > > > known twist. That's why it handles the bigger
> > injectors better
> > >than
> > > > > > > the older controllers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Bob
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > > > > > > scsilverdak
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm running the Lincoln Navigator injectors (24lb/hr) in my
> > > > > v6...........
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No problems at all except it goes full rich at 3800
> > under boost,
> > >but
> > > > >
> > > > > > > it idles just fine and doesn't run rich at all at idle.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ron-
> > > > > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > > > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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