RE: injectors

From: Bob Mankin (bob@coralfarms.com)
Date: Sat Aug 23 2003 - 13:07:40 EDT


Greg, any idea if the 2-4 bbl adapter for the M1 would fit on that thing?

Bob

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> greg conner
> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 8:01 AM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>
>
>
> I happen to of had a mopar m1 single plain 3.9 intake for the
> magnum motor.
> I was going to tap it for injector bosses but after talking
> with a few
> people even with a huge 2bbl adapter teh plenum volume would
> be way to small
> for most applications. A buddy of mine has it in his garage
> currently
> collecting dust.
>
>
> http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84516.jpg
>
> http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84513.jpg
> http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84509.jpg
>
> it started life as a 2bbl manifold, it kinda had a 2bbl
> flange inside of a
> 4bbl flange. The guy I got it from had cut it out to use a
> 4bbl carb on his
> 95 dak. He never got around to using it and the manifold has
> never been on
> a motor
>
> Greg Conner
> 1996 RC
> 3.9 hybrid
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> >Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> >To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> >Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> >Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:24:35 -0700
> >
> >
> >Ron, the reality is you're on the fringe with a hotrod Mopar
> V6 and even
> >further out with a blower. Not many options currently available, I'm
> >afraid.
> >
> >However........... :-)
> >
> >Got some things cooking for the V8 that theoretically could
> be adapted to
> >the V6 if you were willing to tackle some machine work.
> >
> >Any chance you could track down a single plane aluminum
> intake for that
> >thing? Got any pics of what they look like? I thought MP
> offered one, but
> >it
> >looks like it's been discontinued.
> >
> >Bob
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> >[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> scsilverdak
> >Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:16 PM
> >To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> >Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> >
> >
> >
> >I may (or may not) put my foot in my mouth
> >with the following comment........
> >
> >I have seen the tables for fuel and spark on the stand-alone
> management
> >systems and Yes they are very intimidating to say the least!
> >
> >I can only imagine what the tables look like on the DC, GM,
> and Ford stock
> >PCM's.........
> >
> >So a experienced tuner with the software needed to properly tune a
> >customer's car or truck would be money well spent......$500.00
> >would be a bargain..........
> >
> >I do have a legit question.......
> >
> >BUT what do you do when you have an application (Magnum v6)
> and no one
> >currently has a flash?.........and yes, I do know there are
> somethings
> >currently being developed.
> >
> >Are your only options the dreaded "magic box"
> >devices such as Superchips Race ICON or the Apexi A/F
> controllers, and
> >billet FMU's to control the fuel curve?..........
> >
> >I've had to resort to these help tune my combination and I
> will need to
> >retune soon.
> >
> >So I'm looking at my options.......
> >
> >Ron-
> >'01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> >Street ,Strip, and Show
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> >To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> >Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:14 PM
> >Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Yes, you can buy a software tuner like Tweecer for the
> Fords. But people
> > > still are more willing to spend the $500 one time to have
> an experienced
> > > tuner do the tune for them. If you're not familiar with
> fuel and spark
> > > tables(ignoring the dozens of periphery variables), the
> first time you
> >open
> > > one up will help you to understand how intimidating they
> can be. The
> > > learning curve is not trivial.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf
> Of Chad Evans
> > > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:57 AM
> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > actually you can get a stand alone system for 800 bucks
> > > for mustangs/capri 5.0's
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:15 PM
> > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Work well in what?
> > > >
> > > > Find me one nationally recognized and respected tuner
> who likes FMUs
> >or
> > > > "rising rate regulators" as you like to call them. You
> take your 5L
> > > > Mustang
> > > > to be tweaked by one of the better tuners(much deeper
> forced induction
> > > > knowledge base) and they'll tell you to lose it before
> they even touch
> > > > your
> > > > stuff.
> > > >
> > > > Reason they suck is they are inconsistent and the computer is
> >constantly
> > > > having to hit a moving target with respect to fuel
> pressure. Used only
> >by
> > > > those without any better tools.
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On
> Behalf Of Bernd D.
> > > > Ratsch
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:36 PM
> > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And contrary to "other opinions"...they do work very well.
> > > >
> > > > - Bernd
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> > > > scsilverdak
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:56 PM
> > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ok, so how about a Boost Proportional Regulator for better fuel
> > > > control.......hehehehe!
> > > >
> > > > http://www.bellengineering.net/fmu2020.htm
> > > >
> > > > This is what's going to replace the FMU I'm currently
> running, it's
> >much
> > > > better design and easily adjusts to achieve the fuel
> curve I need.
> > > >
> > > > Ron-
> > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:14 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally I wouldn't put "better" and "rising rate
> regulator" in
> >the
> > > > > same sentence, but that's just me ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > > > > scsilverdak
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:24 PM
> > > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I still need to install a Rising Rate regulator, for
> better fuel
> > > > > control.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also need to have the PCM flashed for better fuel
> mapping and to
> >fix
> > > >
> > > > > the timing issues once and for all....
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron-
> > > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:49 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ron, the '01 and later stuff idles in closed loop.
> Another little
> > > > > > known twist. That's why it handles the bigger
> injectors better
> >than
> > > > > > the older controllers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bob
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > > > > > scsilverdak
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm running the Lincoln Navigator injectors (24lb/hr) in my
> > > > v6...........
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No problems at all except it goes full rich at 3800
> under boost,
> >but
> > > >
> > > > > > it idles just fine and doesn't run rich at all at idle.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ron-
> > > > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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