Re: injectors

From: Tony Cellana (acellan1@tampabay.rr.com)
Date: Sat Aug 23 2003 - 22:50:53 EDT


If your bound and determined to build up the 3.9 hahaha

I'd slap a plate over it, bolt it down, then cut out the holes to mount a
2bbl TB on it.

And the injector bosses of course ;-)

TonyC

-----Original Message-----
From: greg conner <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com>
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Date: Saturday, August 23, 2003 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: DML: injectors

>
>I happen to of had a mopar m1 single plain 3.9 intake for the magnum motor.
>I was going to tap it for injector bosses but after talking with a few
>people even with a huge 2bbl adapter teh plenum volume would be way to
small
>for most applications. A buddy of mine has it in his garage currently
>collecting dust.
>
>
>http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84516.jpg
>
>http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84513.jpg
>http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84509.jpg
>
>it started life as a 2bbl manifold, it kinda had a 2bbl flange inside of a
>4bbl flange. The guy I got it from had cut it out to use a 4bbl carb on
his
>95 dak. He never got around to using it and the manifold has never been on
>a motor
>
>Greg Conner
>1996 RC
>3.9 hybrid
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
>>Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>>Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>>Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:24:35 -0700
>>
>>
>>Ron, the reality is you're on the fringe with a hotrod Mopar V6 and even
>>further out with a blower. Not many options currently available, I'm
>>afraid.
>>
>>However........... :-)
>>
>>Got some things cooking for the V8 that theoretically could be adapted to
>>the V6 if you were willing to tackle some machine work.
>>
>>Any chance you could track down a single plane aluminum intake for that
>>thing? Got any pics of what they look like? I thought MP offered one, but
>>it
>>looks like it's been discontinued.
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>>[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of scsilverdak
>>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:16 PM
>>To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>Subject: Re: DML: injectors
>>
>>
>>
>>I may (or may not) put my foot in my mouth
>>with the following comment........
>>
>>I have seen the tables for fuel and spark on the stand-alone management
>>systems and Yes they are very intimidating to say the least!
>>
>>I can only imagine what the tables look like on the DC, GM, and Ford stock
>>PCM's.........
>>
>>So a experienced tuner with the software needed to properly tune a
>>customer's car or truck would be money well spent......$500.00
>>would be a bargain..........
>>
>>I do have a legit question.......
>>
>>BUT what do you do when you have an application (Magnum v6) and no one
>>currently has a flash?.........and yes, I do know there are somethings
>>currently being developed.
>>
>>Are your only options the dreaded "magic box"
>>devices such as Superchips Race ICON or the Apexi A/F controllers, and
>>billet FMU's to control the fuel curve?..........
>>
>>I've had to resort to these help tune my combination and I will need to
>>retune soon.
>>
>>So I'm looking at my options.......
>>
>>Ron-
>>'01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
>>Street ,Strip, and Show
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
>>To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:14 PM
>>Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Yes, you can buy a software tuner like Tweecer for the Fords. But
people
>> > still are more willing to spend the $500 one time to have an
experienced
>> > tuner do the tune for them. If you're not familiar with fuel and spark
>> > tables(ignoring the dozens of periphery variables), the first time you
>>open
>> > one up will help you to understand how intimidating they can be. The
>> > learning curve is not trivial.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of Chad Evans
>> > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:57 AM
>> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>> > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > actually you can get a stand alone system for 800 bucks
>> > for mustangs/capri 5.0's
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
>> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:15 PM
>> > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Work well in what?
>> > >
>> > > Find me one nationally recognized and respected tuner who likes FMUs
>>or
>> > > "rising rate regulators" as you like to call them. You take your 5L
>> > > Mustang
>> > > to be tweaked by one of the better tuners(much deeper forced
induction
>> > > knowledge base) and they'll tell you to lose it before they even
touch
>> > > your
>> > > stuff.
>> > >
>> > > Reason they suck is they are inconsistent and the computer is
>>constantly
>> > > having to hit a moving target with respect to fuel pressure. Used
only
>>by
>> > > those without any better tools.
>> > >
>> > > Bob
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of Bernd D.
>> > > Ratsch
>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:36 PM
>> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>> > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > And contrary to "other opinions"...they do work very well.
>> > >
>> > > - Bernd
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
>> > > scsilverdak
>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:56 PM
>> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>> > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Ok, so how about a Boost Proportional Regulator for better fuel
>> > > control.......hehehehe!
>> > >
>> > > http://www.bellengineering.net/fmu2020.htm
>> > >
>> > > This is what's going to replace the FMU I'm currently running, it's
>>much
>> > > better design and easily adjusts to achieve the fuel curve I need.
>> > >
>> > > Ron-
>> > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
>> > > Street ,Strip, and Show
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
>> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:14 PM
>> > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Personally I wouldn't put "better" and "rising rate regulator" in
>>the
>> > > > same sentence, but that's just me ;-)
>> > > >
>> > > > Bob
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>> > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
>> > > > scsilverdak
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:24 PM
>> > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>> > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > I still need to install a Rising Rate regulator, for better fuel
>> > > > control.
>> > > >
>> > > > I also need to have the PCM flashed for better fuel mapping and to
>>fix
>> > >
>> > > > the timing issues once and for all....
>> > > >
>> > > > Ron-
>> > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
>> > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
>> > > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:49 PM
>> > > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Ron, the '01 and later stuff idles in closed loop. Another little
>> > > > > known twist. That's why it handles the bigger injectors better
>>than
>> > > > > the older controllers.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Bob
>> > > > >
>> > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>> > > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
>> > > > > scsilverdak
>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:16 AM
>> > > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>> > > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'm running the Lincoln Navigator injectors (24lb/hr) in my
>> > > v6...........
>> > > > >
>> > > > > No problems at all except it goes full rich at 3800 under boost,
>>but
>> > >
>> > > > > it idles just fine and doesn't run rich at all at idle.....
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Ron-
>> > > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
>> > > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
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