I'm sure if he did it would of been brought up in this debate a long time
ago.
Greg Conner
1996 RC
3.9 hybrid
>From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
>Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
>Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
>Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:29:55 -0600
>
>
>No, youre assuming he didnąt test it agianst the Mopar PCM
>
>
>
>On 2/19/04 9:19 PM, in article LAW12-F22QIqrfFz82b00000838@hotmail.com,
>""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Ugh, Thats my whole point. You didnt test it against a mopar pcm. You
>just
> > stated you knew a guy who ran a superchips programmer. How does him
>running
> > it prove it works better. I must be slow and missing the logic behind
>that.
> > i guess if he runs it, its gotta be the best. Ron merx scott q and
>damon
> > better go get a superchips tuner I guess...They must be missing out on
> > something
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg Conner
> > 1996 RC
> > 3.9 hybrid
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
> >> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> >> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> >> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
> >> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 21:03:17 -0600
> >>
> >>
> >> MY POINT IS YOU ARE WRONG FOR INSINUATING CHAD MADE EITHER A FALSE OR
> >> ERRONIOUAS STATEMENT BY CITING AN EXAMPLE WHERE THE SUPERCHIPS
>OUTPERFORMED
> >> THE MOPAR PCM.
> >>
> >> IS THIS CLEAR ENOUGH???
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/19/04 8:58 PM, in article Law12-F71HxYHLBQhEx00000588@hotmail.com,
> >> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> What point was that again??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Greg Conner
> >>> 1996 RC
> >>> 3.9 hybrid
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
> >>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> >>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> >>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
> >>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:44:47 -0600
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, make your claims, make a personal attack, and then leave.....
> >> Nice
> >>>> way
> >>>> to prove a point.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/19/04 8:38 PM, in article
>LAW12-F29GkzMcvsq9I00000661@hotmail.com,
> >>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jesus gary, I really dont want to get back into this but how is
> >>>> supplying
> >>>>> the email of a guy running a superchips tuner providing facts its
> >> better
> >>>>> than a mopar pcm.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As far as the rest, it was sealed with the "right stuff" an
>extremely
> >>>> heavy
> >>>>> duty rtv. Its actually fairly widely used as a replacement for the
> >>>> plenum
> >>>>> gasket. Sorry the inside wasnt mirror polished, i guess you know
> >> best.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm sorry I dont post useless BS all the time. I'll try to become
> >> more
> >>>>> active for ya.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm done with this.......
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Greg Conner
> >>>>> 1996 RC
> >>>>> 3.9 hybrid
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> j
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
> >>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> >>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 20:15:11 -0600
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/19/04 7:47 PM, in article
> >> Law12-F41hr3y9jkLqP0000032e@hotmail.com,
> >>>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "no greg, it is an attack. Siting an example of the product being
> >>>> used
> >>>>>> sure
> >>>>>>> as hell isn't making a misleading, or erroneous claim."-gary
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "the superchips works way better than the mopar pcm on a 2000
> >>>> r/t."-chad
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> How is that just siting an example? Looks like its suggesting a
> >>>> product
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> me with no back. just beacuse some guy used it that has a 408
> >> doesnt
> >>>>>> really
> >>>>>>> support anything. But whatever.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yeah, but you forgot the second part of his statement, in which he
> >>>> sites
> >>>>>> his
> >>>>>> example.... QUOTE: "> >I can give you the email of the guy that has
> >> one
> >>>> on
> >>>>>> his 2000 r/t."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So there YOU go, taking stuff out of context to suite YOUR
>opinions!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "For the past several months you've been hounding me on AIM for
>info
> >>>> on
> >>>>>> what
> >>>>>>> both me and chad have been doing.... I knew any info I gave you
> >> would
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>> relayed to someone else. This is nothing but a full blown goddamn
> >>>>>> attack,
> >>>>>>> and everyone here knows it."-gary
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Are you f'n kidding me. LMFAO Do you also have conspiracy
>theories
> >>>>>> about
> >>>>>>> the government listening in on your thoughts?? Me hounding you on
> >>>>>> aim??? I
> >>>>>>> think the only time I have corresponded with you via aim in the
>last
> >>>> few
> >>>>>>> months was when I was asking to buy back the injectors I had sold
> >> you
> >>>>>> last
> >>>>>>> year since you did not use them. Info relayed to someone else?lol
> >> Is
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> some kind of dakota conspiracy theory you thought up? Is KRC, The
> >>>>>> Fastman,
> >>>>>>> and GS motorsports all listening in on your top secrete dakota
>phone
> >>>>>>> conversations?lol
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you think this is a joke, you've got your head so far up your
>a$$
> >>>> its
> >>>>>> not
> >>>>>> funny. I do find it funny how KRC is first on that list being
>youre
> >> so
> >>>>>> close to them.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm not attacking anyone, I have no problem with you, chad or
>anyone
> >>>>>> else on
> >>>>>>> this list. You need to cool it with the conspiracy theory.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> No greg, this is not some conspiracy theory... It's just I find it
> >> odd
> >>>> you
> >>>>>> of all people, who hasnąt posted in a long time, come out looking
>for
> >>>> blood
> >>>>>> when chad made that post. I simply called you on it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "I think I might post some pics of that intake manifold you sent
> >>>>>>> me....Maybee
> >>>>>>> when they see that and what I paid for it, they'll know exactly
>what
> >>>>>> type of
> >>>>>>> person you really are."- gary
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Once again, wtf? I sent you a mildly cleaned up manifold.
>Trimmed
> >>>>>> runners,
> >>>>>>> opened up bores, and all sandplasted and sealed. You said you
>were
> >>>> very
> >>>>>>> happy with it. If you werent I would of taken it back. This was
> >> like
> >>>> 2
> >>>>>>> years ago gary!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Again, wrong info.... I got that from you in august, not 2 years
>ago.
> >>>> It
> >>>>>> was not sandblasted because it still had the gouges from the dremel
> >>>> tool
> >>>>>> where you did your porting, And yes, it was sealed....but only with
> >>>> RTV. I
> >>>>>> sure as hell wasn't happy when me & ron opened it up to find the
>gobs
> >>>> of
> >>>>>> RTV!!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This crap is way more than a personal attack that anything I have
> >> ever
> >>>>>>> posted. If you need to continue your personal vendetta against me
> >> and
> >>>>>>> conspiracy theories email me offlist. I dont think this the DML
> >> needs
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>>> craziness cluttering it up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Me, starting a personal attack?? The only thing Im doing is
> >> defending
> >>>>>> myself from one. Or do "conspiracy theories" donąt apply???
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Dak content.... umm, mine needs a bath.........
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Greg Conner
> >>>>>>> 1996 RC
> >>>>>>> 3.9 hybrid
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
> >>>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> >>>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
> >>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 19:02:37 -0600
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2/19/04 1:27 PM, in article
> >>>> Law12-F74qceSkScfpV0000321e@hotmail.com,
> >>>>>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Who else tries to push anything especially without being backed
>by
> >>>> any
> >>>>>>>> data?
> >>>>>>>>> I dont consider this the proper forum to push ones sales
> >> especially
> >>>> if
> >>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>> is making missleading or uneducated claims to do so. This forum
> >> is
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>> helping out fellow dakota owners. Providing unbacked or
> >> missleading
> >>>>>>>>> information about a product because one just happens to sell it
>or
> >>>>>> make
> >>>>>>>> more
> >>>>>>>>> money off it isnt what I would consider helping another owner.
> >> Not
> >>>> an
> >>>>>>>>> attack, just my opinion.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No greg, it is an attack. Siting an example of the product being
> >>>> used
> >>>>>> sure
> >>>>>>>> as hell isn't making a misleading, or erroneous claim. Just
> >> because
> >>>>>> theres
> >>>>>>>> no dyno graphs proving it, doesn't mean it's misleading. And to
> >> add
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> you could even debate the validity of anyone posting dyno graphs,
> >>>>>> wether
> >>>>>>>> they were modified with photoshop, or if other modifications were
> >>>> made
> >>>>>>>> prior to the comparison run.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> For the past several months you've been hounding me on AIM for
>info
> >>>> on
> >>>>>> what
> >>>>>>>> both me and chad have been doing.... I knew any info I gave you
> >> would
> >>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>> relayed to someone else. This is nothing but a full blown
>goddamn
> >>>>>> attack,
> >>>>>>>> and everyone here knows it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I think I might post some pics of that intake manifold you sent
> >>>>>>>> me....Maybee
> >>>>>>>> when they see that and what I paid for it, they'll know exactly
> >> what
> >>>>>> type
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>> person you really are.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Gary Hedlin
> >>>>>>>> 98 3.9 RC Sport
> >>>>>>>> http://garysdakota.1colony.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> From: Gary Hedlin <ghedlin@theramp.net>
> >>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> >>>>>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:53:17 -0600
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Greg,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> How come whenever anoyone else tries to push anything, we never
> >>>> hear
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>> peep
> >>>>>>>>>> from you?? I find it pretty damn ironic....
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> BTW: Wheres YOUR proof the Mopar PCM is better??
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Gary Hedlin
> >>>>>>>>>> 98 3.9 RC Sport
> >>>>>>>>>> http://garysdakota.1colony.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2/19/04 8:52 AM, in article
> >>>>>> Law12-F49vjx3zbovr20006c94c@hotmail.com,
> >>>>>>>>>> ""greg conner"" <dodgeboy93@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Just because you make more money off a superchips than a mopar
> >>>> isnt
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>> reason
> >>>>>>>>>>> to push it on this list. The mopar pcm is the way to go over
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>>> superchips
> >>>>>>>>>>> programmer for all out performance....
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Greg Conner
> >>>>>>>>>>> 1996 RC
> >>>>>>>>>>> 3.9 hybrid
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Chad Evans" <hemidak@msn.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 07:31:14 -0600
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the superchips works way better than the mopar pcm on a 2000
> >> r/t.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I can give you the email of the guy that has one on his 2000
> >> r/t.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> email me off list if you want it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <fasstdak@hotmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:19 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: DML: Used MP PCM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the R/T's come with a standard PCM (nothing fancy about
> >>>> them).
> >>>>>>>> On
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> used MP PCM, the '99 "may" work, but they changed some of
>the
> >>>> code
> >>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> '00 models and some items may not work. Also, if the VIN
>has
> >>>> been
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> programmed into the PCM, you're SOL.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Bernd
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf
>Of
> >>>> andy
> >>>>>>>>>> levy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 7:03 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Used MP PCM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hash: SHA1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/18/2004 7:58 PM, Ed Estoppey wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> | hey all,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> | I have a chance to get a used Mopar Performance PCM from a
> >>>> 1999
> >>>>>>>> Dak
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> | R/T. Will this work on my 2000 R/T, or will I have to get
> >> one
> >>>>>>>>>> specific
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> | to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> my year
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> | and Vin??
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't the R/T come with an MP PCM out of the factory? Or
>is
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>> an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "above and beyond" one?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - -andy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://home.twcny.rr.com/andylevy/dakota -
> >> andy-dml@levyclan.us
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - --------------------------------------------
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Bob Tom
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