I agree; the tech schools pumped out way too many paper MCSEs over the last few
years. In addition to the fact that many were not properly trained for they
were taught how to take the certification test and not the material covered by
the tests. Because many of the “schools” are private training facilities, they
don’t have to meet up to the same standards as accredited learning intuitions.
I have a very good friend who went to a very well known tech school in this
area to get his MCSE. He was given a booklet with about 400-600 questions and
answers in it; spent a few weeks memorizing them then took his tests. He told
me that every question on the tests were in his booklet and now he’s certified
after spending $10k and memorizing a bunch of questions. Doesn’t know a damn
thing and I end up explaining things to him quite frequently. I get 4-5 AIM
messages from him a day asking how to do something. Meanwhile, my crappy little
project that I took out of desperation ends tomorrow and I’ll be back on the
street looking for another before the bills get too deep. I have worked with
quite a few people, who had the same certifications as I, if not more, and many
of them really didn’t deserve the certifications they had, IMHO. Now these
individuals also have a negative effect on the industry for it’s difficult for
them in many cases to maintain positions for long term. They get dumped back
out onto the job market and as time progresses desperation lowers their
standards. They take positions at a lower than normal rate to pay their bills.
That drives the average salaries for those positions down which in turn has an
effect on employees who have the skills. They get “Downsized” in “Cost-cutting
Measures” because there are a ton of “Certified” people out there who are
willing to do the same job for less money. And then the cycle repeats. It’s
one of the reason the industry is so Contractor/Consultant based. Having a
department of disposable employees helps with the bottom line when they are
cutting costs.
Walt
http://www.Walt-n-Ingrid.Com
In article <009c01c4e18a$43f877b0$844bbacc@yourze8cxvr8tt>, kerib@ptd.net ("Tom
Byrne") writes:
>
>
> Too many people chasing too few jobs = low wages, regardless of how much
> work it takes to acquire such skills. Bridge painters on long suspension
> bridges get paid high wages. Not because it requires much technical skill to
> paint steel, but because not many people want the job.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Barry Oliver" <barrysuperhawk@insightbb.com>
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 1:27 AM
> Subject: Re: DML: Hey Maskalans...
>
>
> >
> > Gary Hedlin wrote:
> >> On 12/7/04 1:18 PM, in article cp4vk1$b4c$1@bent.twistedbits.net,
> >> "Walt@Walt-n-Ingrid.Com" <Walt@Walt-n-Ingrid.Com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I‚m there too; the project I have with Incompetent Business Morons is up
> >>>soon
> >>>and most likely won‚t be renewed. I‚m driving an hour to get to a
crappy
> >>>job I
> >>>hate, but I can‚t complain, at least it‚s a paycheck. AT least for
> >>>another
> >>>week
> >>>or two. It‚s amazing they‚re industry leaders considering their
project
> >>>management practices for I‚ve never been on such a F**ked up
> >>>project/account.
> >>>Job market in this area is in the toilet as well. I‚m just trying to
> >>>hold
> >>>out
> >>>until the first of the year.
> >>>
> >>>Walt
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hey Walt & Mike (or anyone in IT)
> >>
> >> What do you think the job prospects are for someone with A+, Network+,
> >> and
> >> MCSA certs with experience as a Technology advisor for Special Education
> >> depts helping disabled students find & use different adaptive products??
> >>
> >> I have the certs, but my experience might not apply when I go for a
> >> typical
> >> IT job.... That's the proverbial brick wall I gotta scale to get a job!
> >> :)
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Well I have those certs and more, and 5 years direct experience, but all I
> > kept getting offered was $8-$10 "entry level" IT jobs. IT is just really
> > soft now..
> >
>
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