RE: Door alignment on a GEN III

From: Rick Barnes (rascal@scrtc.com)
Date: Fri Jan 27 2006 - 11:32:41 EST


Good fix, way to go Miles!

Rascal

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Miles D.
Oliver
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:27 AM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: Door alignment on a GEN III

   Last night I was able to take a piece of 2x4 and place it in the door
hinges with the door still on the truck and close the door on it. It pinched
the
2x4 well and didn't slip. It was big enough to cover both hinges.

  I then put all 280lbs of me into the door in a slow and even pressure. I
turned around and laid my back against the door and pushed with my
legs. I made sure I didn't rock or slam the door while applying pressure.

I was able to move the door back into position and coax the door back to
where it will seal like the other one, no more wind noise, no more water
coming in. Lots quieter running up the road.

  I told my wife how important it was for her to not let the door fly out
of her hands in the wind or to just open it and push it open with her leg
and allow the door to flop on its own. The way that she listens, Something
tells me that I will be repeating this process.

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006, Bill Day wrote:

>
> Oops, guess I should read the threads more closely..
>
> O.K. After reading it, maybe dismounting the door is in order and using a
2x4
> or something that will fit inside the hinge mounts or near them and having
a
> buddy tap it with a BFH would do the trick. The "bubbles" may go down,
but
> likely since it is already stressed, it may not stay....
>
> On Thursday January 26 2006 9:18 pm, Miles D. Oliver wrote:
>> This technique would suggest that it would pull in the TOP of the
door,
>> around the window and not the entire door itself.
>>
>> As the entire door is pulled out then I would need to attempt to
align
>> the entire door, not just the top around the window in for a proper
>> seal.
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Bill Day wrote:
>>> The guy that did the body work on my truck after I wrecked it a few
years
>>> ago had to do mine took him 2 minutes.
>>>
>>> Roll down the window!
>>>
>>> Open door place right shin to outside edge of door(as you are looking at
>>> the door interior.
>>>
>>> Grab upper edge of door with both hands and pull toward you.
>>>
>>> Repat until door seems to seal properly.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> On Thursday January 26 2006 4:27 pm, Rick Barnes wrote:
>>>> Yeah, just covering my butt so you would not get upset with me. I
doubt
>>>> you would pop a hinge too but we never know. Its definitely better
news
>>>> than a bent pillar.
>>>>
>>>> Rascal
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Miles D.
>>>> Oliver
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 10:05 AM
>>>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>> Subject: RE: DML: Door alignment on a GEN III
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the hinge itself, placing a block of wood in it and
slowly
>>>> trying to close the door on it shouldn't 'pop' the hinge. I wasn't
>>>> planning on slamming the door on it to try and fix the problem.
>>>>
>>>> I'll probably end up taking it to a body shop in the end if I can't
>>>> make any progress, but at least I have a much better understanding of
>>>> the problem.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 26 Jan 2006, Rick Barnes wrote:
>>>>> That makes much more sense that the door bent instead of the pillar
>>>>> Miles and that is very good news. I don't know if you could fix it by
>>>>> closing
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> door on a piece of wood, but you know what? I would likely try it,
>>>>> what
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> heck, its already goofed up anyway. Just try it a little at a time IF
>>>>> you do try it and please don't get mad at me if you pop a hinge or
>>>>> something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rascal
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>>>>> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Miles D.
>>>>> Oliver
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 9:31 AM
>>>>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>> Subject: Re: DML: Door alignment on a GEN III
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I took some time this morning to look at the wind blown door and the
>>>>> large gap.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe I know what seems to have happened, and how to fix it. But
>>>>> to
>>>>
>>>> do
>>>>
>>>>> the fix It will require either removing the door or blocking the hinge
>>>>> and forcing the door closed.
>>>>>
>>>>> My first thought was that the door pillar itself had somehow twisted
>>>>> and caused the gap. I opened the truck door and pushed the door out to
>>>>> the stop and then tried to push it farther to duplicate the same force
>>>>> that the wind took and noticed that it moves at the weaker point, not
>>>>> the pillar but the door itself. The hinge mounting area on the door
>>>>> itself and the area around it is supposed to be flat.
>>>>>
>>>>> After the wind caught the door the metal around the hinges aren't flat
>>>>> but raised and 'pulled out' because of the force exerted by the wind.
>>>>> The door itself gave, not the pillar, and there isn't any way to
adjust
>>>>> the hinge itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, either the door has to come off, The area around the hinge pushed
>>>>> back flat with a hammer and block of wood and the door remounted. Lot
>>>>> of work, measuring . and hope to get it back aligned properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> OR
>>>>>
>>>>> I can try bracing/binding the inside of the hinge with a block of
wood
>>>>> and pushing the door shut to force the raised area of the door back
>>>>> flat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Taking off the door will probably yeild a more successful attempt as
I
>>>>> don't know if I can force the door plate back totally flat by just
>>>>> binding the hinge with a block of wood.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts or flaws that I may have missed in my logic to try and
>>>>> get the door to once again seal properly?
>
>

-- 
  Miles D. Oliver
  www.mmoliver.org



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