If I blew past the 'above' they were referring to, then I am sure I am
not the only one.
This was poorly written and totally confusing.
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, david.clement@verizon.net wrote:
>
> You blew right past the "above" they were refereing to;
>
> "NOTE: This bulletin applies to all transmissions manufactured by Chrysler
> except for 1999 and earlier minivans with the 41TE/AE transmission, This
> Service Bulletin DOES NOT apply to all AW-4 transmissions, Sprinter
> transmissions, Crossfire transmissions and WG bodies equipped with a W5J400 or
> NAG1 transmission "
>
> It's only the mini vans and the cars that don't have mopar trannies.
>
> Dave Clement
> 99 SLT+ CC 4x4
>
>
> In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0603231537490.30798@kota.mmoliver.org>,
> moliver@mmoliver.org ("Miles D. Oliver") writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a very confusing page.
>>
>> 1989 - 2004 (AN) Dakota
>> 1998 - 2003 (DN) Durango
>>
>> A new transmission fluid (ATF+4 - Type 9602) has been developed and is
>> being used as factory fill for all vehicles with Chrysler automatic
>> transmissions.It is recommended that all vehicles with Chrysler automatic
>> transmissions EXCEPT FOR THOSE LISTED ABOVE be serviced with ATF+4.
>>
>> Both of my vehicles are listed, and if I read this right.
>>
>> "EXCEPT FOR THOSE LISTED ABOVE be serviced with ATF+4"
>>
>> Means that since my vehicles are listed that ATF+4 shouldn't apply.
>>
>> But then later this informaion states something that contradicts above.
>>
>> NOTE: ATF+4 must always be used in vehicles that were originally filled
>> with ATF+4.
>>
>> According to my manual, and everything I was led to believe and that my
>> vehicles came with ATF+4, so ATF+4 must be used.
>>
>> Very confusing info. Doesn't make much a lot of sense.
>>
>> ATF+4 is cheaper than a rebuild.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Joe Levy wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Check this out - it's the YSB that references ATF+4.
>>> Note - some vehicles/transmissions are omitted from thechangeover.
>>> http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2004/21-004-04.htm
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> Pindell, Tim wrote:
>>>> Thanks fellas. I've got three older boxes that use the +3: a '98 41TE,
>>>> a '94 46RH and an '86 A-525. I guess I'm OK to use what I've got of the
>>>> +3 and re-fill with +4 when the time comes. I had a small concern
>>>> regarding compatibility and availability which now appears to be a
>>>> non-issue.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net [mailto:owner-dakota-
>>>>> truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Rick Barnes
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:55 AM
>>>>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Valvoline ATF+4 at Autozone.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Atf+4 is better stuff, handles heat much better. If your tranny calls
>>>>
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> it, use it or you may well be buying a new tranny
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net [mailto:owner-dakota-
>>>>> truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Ray Block
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:19 PM
>>>>> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>>>>> Subject: DML: RE: RE: Valvoline ATF+4 at Autozone.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey Tim, the latest issue of MOPAR magazine has a big article on ATF+4.
>>>>>
>>>>> I quote..."While ATF+4 is used in late model vehicles built since 2001,
>>>>> there are many applications prior to this date in which ATF+4 can be
>>>>
>>>> used.
>>>>
>>>>> Remember, ATF+4 must always be used in vehicles that were originally
>>>>
>>>> filled
>>>>
>>>>> with ATF+4."
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically they said ATF+4 is compatible with ATF+, ATF+2 and ATF+3.
>>>>> Outside
>>>>> of vehicles that came with ATF+4, you can still use the earlier
>>>>
>>>> products
>>>>
>>>>> (if
>>>>> you can find them). Mopar just feels the +4 is better.
>>>>>
>>>>> For instance, my 2000 Grand Cherokee came with ATF+3 and a Mopar Tech
>>>>> friend
>>>>> told me it would be fine to continue using 3 in it when I changed the
>>>>
>>>> fluid
>>>>
>>>>> and filters. If I wanted to spend the extra $ I could switch to 4.
>>>>
>>>> My
>>>>
>>>>> choice....and I have to say there have been no problems racing or
>>>>
>>>> towing
>>>>
>>>>> with this Jeep with ATF+3. But, that is what it came with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just saw another message from you Tim...yes, ATF+4 *was* only available
>>>>> from
>>>>> the dealer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Pindell, Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A local Advance Auto had the last of the ATF+3 for $1.50/quart. I
>>>>>> bought them all. The +4 in the same store was $4.98/quart! I'm going
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>>> have to look into why the +3 was superseded. Anybody have a linky or
>>>>>> two for the whole story?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .------------------------------------------------------------------.
>>>> | Make your plans NOW to attend the National DML Meet in Colorado! |
>>>> | Date: July 15-23, 2006 - More info: http://meet.dakota-truck.net |
>>>> `------------------------------------------------------------------'
>>>>
>>> .
>>> .
>>> .------------------------------------------------------------------.
>>> | Make your plans NOW to attend the National DML Meet in Colorado! |
>>> | Date: July 15-23, 2006 - More info: http://meet.dakota-truck.net |
>>> `------------------------------------------------------------------'
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Miles D. Oliver
>> www.mmoliver.org
>>
>> .
>> .
>> .------------------------------------------------------------------.
>> | Make your plans NOW to attend the National DML Meet in Colorado! |
>> | Date: July 15-23, 2006 - More info: http://meet.dakota-truck.net |
>> `------------------------------------------------------------------'
>>
> .
> .
> .------------------------------------------------------------------.
> | Make your plans NOW to attend the National DML Meet in Colorado! |
> | Date: July 15-23, 2006 - More info: http://meet.dakota-truck.net |
> `------------------------------------------------------------------'
>
>
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