Re: Dakota Won't Start

From: Jamie Calder (jcalder3@cfl.rr.com)
Date: Wed Jan 24 2007 - 17:15:41 EST


Still no go... Here's what I did so far:

Crank Position Sensor showed resistance so I replaced it.
Cam Position Sensor tested good.
Fuel pressure at 49 PSI.
Spark from all wires.
Watched distributor rotor for smooth rotation. No indication of broken cam
or distributor teeth.
Looked for any signs of wire harness corrosion and checked all grounds.
After all that...Replaced PCM! And...STILL NO GO!!!
I could check voltage at the injector PCM pins but a new PCM should have
fixed that.
How about a broken timing chain. Is removing the valve cover the easiest
way to check for that?
Any other ideas are greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
James

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Jamie Calder
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:39 AM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: RE: Re: RE: Re: Dakota Won't Start

Well I tested the CPS as per the FSM and it showed resistance so I replaced
it, however the truck still won't start. I checked the CPS and it shows the
fluctuating voltage as per the FSM so it appears to be good. Cap and rotor
appear fine. Fuel pressure at 49 PSI. Still no codes. I'm going to check
what the voltage should be at the injectors. Right now the meter shows only
2.5 volts but it's a digital volt meter. I believe an analog meter is better
for testing quickly fluctuating voltage.
Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated!
James

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Biff Byrum
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:22 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: Re: RE: Re: Dakota Won't Start

Well, 120 is kinda well before those sensors seem to want to fail. If yours
is a 96, you should have OBDII. A reader might solve the problem real fast.
Especially if you get a P1xxx code. Those are the manufacturer-specific
codes. I've heard of one that says "disagreement between cam and crank
position sensor signals. I think it was P1903. Since you have the FSM, it
should tell you what you need. Biff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamie Calder" <jcalder3@cfl.rr.com>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 4:22 PM
Subject: DML: RE: Re: Dakota Won't Start

>
> Thanks for the reply. I'll try those sensors, I actually have a spare
> of each. I'll also check the FSM. to see if there's a simple test
> procedure for them. The truck has 120,000 miles on it. I swapped
> relays already so the ASD relay seems good.
>
> Thanks again,
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Biff
> Byrum
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:12 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: DML: Re: Dakota Won't Start
>
>
> First thought: Crank position sensor, then cam position sensor. Both
> should throw, but they don't always. How many miles do you have on it?
> Also, this is a long shot, since they very seldom go bad, but ASD relay?
> Biff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Calder" <jcalder3@cfl.rr.com>
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:40 PM
> Subject: DML: Dakota Won't Start
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I just got to pay $200 to get my '96 318 Dakota towed back to my
>> house! It just quit with no warning on I95. It turns over freely,
>> has
>> 1/2 tank of gas, no trouble codes, and I pulled a wire and it has
>> spark (that one wire anyways). The fuel pressure gauge shows 49 PSI
>> when the key is turned. The voltage at the injector plugs goes up to
>> about
>> 2.5 volts. Is this normal? It's a digital volt meter and maybe the
>> split second the voltage jumps to 12 volts isn't long enough to
>> register on the digital
> volt meter? Any other ideas on where to start to look?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> James



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