Re: Re: Dakota Won't Start

From: thebearcentral@cox.net
Date: Wed Jan 24 2007 - 18:27:53 EST


In article <00eb01c74005$30111af0$0602a8c0@dell>, jcalder3@cfl.rr.com ("Jamie
Calder") writes:
>

pull spark plug and and ground it put your finger in the hole if you have
compreshon you finger will get blown off.......

chris

>
> Still no go... Here's what I did so far:
>
> Crank Position Sensor showed resistance so I replaced it.
> Cam Position Sensor tested good.
> Fuel pressure at 49 PSI.
> Spark from all wires.
> Watched distributor rotor for smooth rotation. No indication of broken cam
> or distributor teeth.
> Looked for any signs of wire harness corrosion and checked all grounds.
> After all that...Replaced PCM! And...STILL NO GO!!!
> I could check voltage at the injector PCM pins but a new PCM should have
> fixed that.
> How about a broken timing chain. Is removing the valve cover the easiest
> way to check for that?
> Any other ideas are greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Jamie Calder
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:39 AM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: DML: RE: Re: RE: Re: Dakota Won't Start
>
>
> Well I tested the CPS as per the FSM and it showed resistance so I replaced
> it, however the truck still won't start. I checked the CPS and it shows the
> fluctuating voltage as per the FSM so it appears to be good. Cap and rotor
> appear fine. Fuel pressure at 49 PSI. Still no codes. I'm going to check
> what the voltage should be at the injectors. Right now the meter shows only
> 2.5 volts but it's a digital volt meter. I believe an analog meter is better
> for testing quickly fluctuating voltage.
> Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated!
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Biff Byrum
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:22 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: DML: Re: RE: Re: Dakota Won't Start
>
>
> Well, 120 is kinda well before those sensors seem to want to fail. If yours
> is a 96, you should have OBDII. A reader might solve the problem real fast.
> Especially if you get a P1xxx code. Those are the manufacturer-specific
> codes. I've heard of one that says "disagreement between cam and crank
> position sensor signals. I think it was P1903. Since you have the FSM, it
> should tell you what you need. Biff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Calder" <jcalder3@cfl.rr.com>
> To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 4:22 PM
> Subject: DML: RE: Re: Dakota Won't Start
>
>
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. I'll try those sensors, I actually have a spare
> > of each. I'll also check the FSM. to see if there's a simple test
> > procedure for them. The truck has 120,000 miles on it. I swapped
> > relays already so the ASD relay seems good.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Biff
> > Byrum
> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 7:12 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: DML: Re: Dakota Won't Start
> >
> >
> > First thought: Crank position sensor, then cam position sensor. Both
> > should throw, but they don't always. How many miles do you have on it?
> > Also, this is a long shot, since they very seldom go bad, but ASD relay?
> > Biff
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jamie Calder" <jcalder3@cfl.rr.com>
> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 3:40 PM
> > Subject: DML: Dakota Won't Start
> >>
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I just got to pay $200 to get my '96 318 Dakota towed back to my
> >> house! It just quit with no warning on I95. It turns over freely,
> >> has
> >> 1/2 tank of gas, no trouble codes, and I pulled a wire and it has
> >> spark (that one wire anyways). The fuel pressure gauge shows 49 PSI
> >> when the key is turned. The voltage at the injector plugs goes up to
> >> about
> >> 2.5 volts. Is this normal? It's a digital volt meter and maybe the
> >> split second the voltage jumps to 12 volts isn't long enough to
> >> register on the digital
> > volt meter? Any other ideas on where to start to look?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> James
>



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