Re: Toyota V8; was Re: Re: 1998 Dakota R/T

From: T & J (jan@bewellnet.com)
Date: Sat Oct 11 1997 - 02:03:04 EDT


What you people to not get, is it don't matter what Japanese vehicle it
came out of. The difference the of engines can be the same.Torque and
performance rely on how it's put together.
 1) torque: does it have heavy cast or steel crank;heavy flywheel;valve
configuration(size and angle to intake or exhaust)and how many
valves;usually massive clutch or torque converter and the most important
aspect is how well balanced overall. just to name a few things
2) Performance: usually better exhaust(bigger doesn't mean better);
supercharger or turbo (diesel benefits from both aspects here). aluminum
heads or block(I myself like iron. it's proven itself over the years to
last much longer).The best thing I can think of is how's it's fueled(carb
or injected)
 Lastely; it also depends on the transmission setup along with the final
drive ratio and the engine horsepower output, and I think DAKOTA has put it
all together into one neat package for the world to catch up to. THANKS
DODGE I needed Power(torque) and SPEED(performance) just my $.02 worth
 starwolf@bewellnet.com

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> From: Craig Baltzer <cbaltzer@Anjura.COM>
> To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
> Subject: RE: Toyota V8; was Re: DML: Re: 1998 Dakota R/T
> Date: Thursday, October 09, 1997 6:49 PM
>
> Boy this import slagging is great fun to watch; it would be even better
> if the people doing the slagging had any of the facts straight. Lets try
> just two to start.
>
> * The 300ZX was a Nissan not a Toyota.
> * The V6 in the T-100 etc. is the same family of V6s used in the 4Runner
> etc., and is not "sports car based" (Toyotas sports cars use inline 6s
> (Supra) or V8s (Lexus)
>
> Guess that V10 in the RAM must be a cow for pulling, since its based on
> that Viper "sports car motor". Or maybe the Viper's a dog since it uses
> that V10 "truck engine". Humm, maybe those generalities are dangerous
> :-)...
>
> Anyway, now about some Dakota content? My '97 5.2l is in the shop
> getting a Mopar cam, 1.7 rockers, hd valve springs/retainers and headers
> installed (K&N intake and Flowmaster custom exhaust already done).
> Hopefully it will emerge faster than it went in. Anyone have a similar
> buildup and can offer some experiences with theirs?
>
> Craig
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rader [SMTP:rlr@bbt.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 1997 1:24 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > Subject: Re: Toyota V8; was Re: DML: Re: 1998 Dakota R/T
> >
> > > there's a big difference between a V8 in a car and one for
> > > a truck, if you take the engine straight out of a Lexxus and put it
> > in a
> > > truck it isn't going to pull shit, because it is designed more for
> > speed
> > > and doesn't have the low-end torque needed in a truck
> >
> > When I was shopping for a truck in 1995, we took a long close look
> > at everything that was out there. The Toyota Tacoma was new that
> > year, and I gave it a shot just like I did for the Ranger, S-10/15,
> > and Dakota. Also looked at the T-100, but just long enough to find
> > out that the Tacoma line had the exact same engines.
> >
> > There was a lot of press at the time about Toyota's great 190HP
> > V6, and what a marvel of engineering and efficiency it was. Well,
> > from what I could gather, it was pretty much straight out of the now
> > defunct 300ZX line. The torque curve was mighty peaky, and all up
> > in the upper RPM range. Basically, it was a detuned sports car
> > engine.
> >
> > What with the outrageous prices the Toyota dealers charge around
> > here, we just kept on looking. The Tacoma was geared towards the
> > sports truck crowd, not towards people who actually wanted a truck
> > that would tow and haul.
> >
> > Toyota might make great vehicles, but their whole quality mythos
> > makes the consumer fair game. The Dakota was twice the truck for the
> > money, and I don't regret purchasing it one bit.
> >
> > Ron



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