Re: New to List

From: Richard A Pyburn (rap777@juno.com)
Date: Thu Dec 11 1997 - 12:12:07 EST


On Thu, 11 Dec 1997 01:02:20 -0500 Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
writes:
>At 09:41 PM 12/10/97 -0600, Robert Trottmann wrote:
>>Thanks for the info. I looked at the FABM: way over my head. If I
>get the
>>FIPK now, will I have to upgrade later if I get cowl induction? I
>don't want
>>to spend $100 now, to throw it away with a hood upgrade. Also, do I
>have to
>>get a whole new hood, or do those fiberglass hood scoops out of J.C.
>Whitney
>>work, or are they crap? Are there any cons to cowl air induction?
>>
>
> The FABM isn't really a big deal... (hard to install, that is) I
>went
>the FABM route, sort of. I used a different can and I didn't
>manufacture
>an S-bolt. The hardware that holds the stock air can on the TBO will
>work
>just fine; I only had to buy a longer carridge bolt because the
>filter
>I got was a 3", so it was a bit taller than the stock can.
>
> If I remember right, I did mine for about $65. You can probably
>figure
>$70 to be on the safe side. That's a heck of a lot better than the
>$120
>K&N wants for the same thing! (Except that the K&N comes with an
>S-bolt)
Not the same thing! K&N includes more. K&N FIPK also includes the
cleaner, re-oiler, and the CARB sticker. Also, I got mine at a local
speed shop for $94.

Richard Pyburn
>
> I want to do cowl induction too; and I was just about to look into
>it
>when I ran into a bit of a cash crunch. :-( The only negatives I can
>think of are: how to match the paint on the fiberglass with the rest
>of the truck? That is, the new painted fiberglass will probably
>deteriorate
>at a different rate than the rest of the truck, which might make it
>look
>funny after a while. (I don't know for sure though.)
> Also, I'm not sure about winter... I keep my truck outside, so I
>might even put the original hood back on during the winter (to keep
>snow
>out of the engine bay and the K&N)
>
> I asked some questions about cowl induction a little while ago on
>the
>list; you might want to check through the archives. (Unfortunately,
>there
>currently isn't a good way to search the archives; sorry...) The
>basic
>upshot of the whole thing was that cowl induction is better than a
>hood scoop or ram-air. Another member of the list (or ex-member? I
>dunno...)
>has/had a hood scoop with a velocity stack setup. (Check out the
>pictures
>page on the DML Home Page; look for a turquoise Dakota Sport with a
>hood
>scoop). He posted once that he got better 1/4 mile times when he
>plugged
>the scoop. So, somehow, the scoop was actually decreasing
>performance.
>Also, a hood scoop creates a lot more drag than a cowl induction
>setup.
>If you're looking for a (quick?), cheap route, Bill Tierney used some
>dryer
>ducting and cut up his air can to make a ram-air that feeds from under
>the
>front bumper. Pretty neat setup. :-) Gave him 2 tenths in the 1/4
>mile,
>if I remember right. I'd consider that to be more difficult than the
>FABM
>though.
>
>
>
> -Jon-
>
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