RE: Using 4HI on Pavement

From: fawcett@uism.bu.edu
Date: Thu Apr 23 1998 - 17:19:41 EDT


     hmmmmmmm... I have the *full time* option and what Craig says jibes
     with what it says on my visor (Part time for Loose/slippery surfaces
     and Full Time for All road surfaces)... There's nothing in the
     owner's manual about it and the service guys at my dealership didn't
     even know it was an option on the Dak (it did create alot of interest
     though... at least 5 service guys came out to check it out)! Go
     figure... I get more useful info. here than from the folks in the biz.
     
     To make this more confusing, would part-time or full-time be more
     effective off-road? I purposely got my rear wheels slipping in some
     mud, put it in "part-time" 4H and it wouldn't budge. When I slipped
     it into "full-time" 4H it rolled right out.
     
     T.
     Boston, MA
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>Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 09:09:05 -0400
     From: Craig Baltzer <Craig.Baltzer@Anjura.COM>
     Subject: RE: DML: RE: Using 4HI on pavement
     
     This isn't quite right according to my understanding, and past
     discussions here...
     
     * The Dak's come with what is called "part time" 4 wheel drive on
     other
     vehicles. The "part time" indicates that you use it "part of the
     time",
     and is characterized by a center diff that mechanically locks the
     front
     and rear drivetrain together. Once engaged, one turn of the rear must
     equal one turn of the front, which causes drive line bindup on dry
     pavement where the wheels can't slip during cornering, etc. Should not
     be used all the time.
     
     * The "full time" 4 wheel drive (also known as "all wheel drive" on
     Volvo, Mitsu, Porsche and Suburu (sp) among others) systems found on
     other vehicles (option on the Dak, Blazer, Cherokee, etc.) typically
     uses a viscous or other type of "slip permitting" center dif. This
     directs torque as needed between the front and rear driveline, and is
     not a "locked" type of dif, so its ok to use on pavement (typically
     these systems do not give you a way to "disengage" 4 wheel drive).
     Anyway, they are fine to use in 4 wheel drive mode all the time.
     
     So, if it says "part time", use it "part of the time" when the roads
     are
     slippery or you're off road. If its says "full time" or "all wheel
     drive", then use it all of the time. Clear as mud?
     
     Craig
     
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     Craig Baltzer - Anjura Technology Corp - Ottawa, Ontario
     Craig.Baltzer@anjura.com - (613) 727-1411
     _____________________________________________
     
     
> -----Original Message-----
> From: L. J. Morris [SMTP:ljohn@alltel.net]
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 1998 6:51 AM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: Using 4HI on pavement
>
> Bobby;
>
> That system is similar to the *full-time* 4wd you can purchase as an
> option
> on the Durango. It essentially has a "differential" between the
     front
> and
> rear drive assemblies, instead of a chain driven transfer case that
     is
> not
> capable of slippage.
>
> L. John
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bob <lthpbsw@northstar.k12.ak.us>
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Date: Thursday, April 23, 1998 4:00 AM
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: Using 4HI on pavement
>
>
> >I agree with you totally. But I've been wondering why my mother's
     98
> Grand
> >Cherokee 5.9 has Full time 4WD and nothing but that and 4Low. It
> isn't all
> >wheel drive, it's 4 wheel drive. How's that work? Just Curious.
> Adios...
> >
> (snip)
> >
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