RE: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)

From: Jason Jennings (jason@spray-tech.com)
Date: Mon Jan 25 1999 - 21:51:11 EST


Probably cuz the big guys are targeting a certain market..... True, the
cheap stuff is probably the speaker in type of junk.... I know mine was
when i had it.... I think most of the nice Pioneers are looking for the
RCA pre amp stuff. I would rather take the couple hundred and start a
Header savings fund, hahahaha....

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Guzinski [SMTP:m.gski@CWIX.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 6:56 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
>
> I have found amps that accept speaker level inputs are the high
> distortion
> amps...low quality......
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf Of Peter
> Anthony
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 12:03 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Peter Anthony on 01/25/99 02:02 PM
>
> not true neccessarily, a rated 25 watt per channel head unit usually
> only
> produces 7 or so watts RMS which equates to about 5 volts. Any of the
> better amps today will accept 9 or more volts on the input rail.
> Though
> there are exceptions.
>
>
>
>
> Please respond to dakota-truck@buffnet.net
>
> To: dakota-truck @ buffnet.net
> cc: (bcc: Peter Anthony/Physician Computer Network)
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
>
>
>
>
> The amp that I have does not have speaker level inputs it only allows
> 200mv-5.0v(line level) thus if I use a speaker level output to go
> directly
> to the amp I need to have that reduced to somewhere between
> 200mv-5.0v..this
> will add distortion. You cannot directly hook a speaker level signal
> from
> a
> head unit to the normal line level inputs on an amp....you will fry
> your
> amp. My question is....What is the output voltage supplied to the
> speakers
> and or amp from the back of the factory Infinity? If it uses a
> outboard
> amp, I would assume the output is somewhere btwn 200mv and 5.0v...is
> this
> the case?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf Of Peter
> Anthony
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 10:26 AM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
>
>
>
>
> From: Peter Anthony on 01/25/99 12:26 PM
> MECP = Mobile Electronics Certification Program
> i also hold my MCSE and am currently working on CCNA.
>
>
>
> jason @ spray-tech.com
> 01/25/99 12:01 PM
>
> Please respond to dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> To: dakota-truck @ buffnet.net
> cc: (bcc: Peter Anthony/Physician Computer Network)
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
>
>
>
> hahahahahaha.....I don't want your job, cuz I have to do it part time
> and hate it.... Our LAN and Wan is a head ache every day. I did skip
> over that gain point. I kind thought it was implied in the distortion
> comment. Couldn't you include volume and gain in the same sentence as
> interchangeable??? Isn't the volume a type of rheostat that controls
> the output levels of the internal amps??? Any given amp (circuits not
> that thing you use in your car for Mo Power) will have an output
> defined
> by its circuit design????? I thought the volume/gain just controlled
> what went into the circuit thus determining what is spit out of the
> circuit???? If you pump the gain up, then you start to distort the
> signal in, thus a bad signal now amplified shooting out???? I used
> the
> Max power less than speaker RMS, so I didn't receive any funny spikes
> that could cause damage.... I think most home-do-it-yourself-ers
> match
> max to max and push the envelope sometimes. Any how...What is a
> MECP???
> I know what MSCE, and MCE, CE, and all those other network related
> mumbo
> jumbos are.... I personally went for a CE/EE, but slept through the
> EE
> junk, man it was boring....hahahahahaha..... Never did care much for
> amps, rectifiers, bridges, band bass filters, and on, and on, and
> on....
> Although I loved feed back, all kinds, yeah Jimmy bring it home baby,
> hahahahaha..... Can you hear Jimmy???? hahahahahaha.....
>
> Jason
> 1/25/99 11:56 AM
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Anthony [SMTP:panthony@pcn.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 11:29 AM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
>
>
> From: Peter Anthony on 01/25/99 11:28 AM
> Output level doesn't really matter, any of the decent amps out
> there today
> have strong enough inputs to handle the new 4+ volt pre in.
> Just set the input gains correctly and you can feed it a CLEAN
> Speaker
> level.
> FYI. I am a MECP Master installer, Just not working in that
> industry any
> more. I am now a network(Wan) Engineer.
>
>
> m.gski @ cwix.com
> 01/25/99 11:05 AM
> Please respond to dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> To: dakota-truck @ buffnet.net
> cc: (bcc: Peter Anthony/Physician Computer Network)
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
>
>
> So, what you are saying in theory is.......The factory Infinity
> CD/Tape/AM/FM has line level outputs....I could run that
> directly to an
> amp.
> Do we have any Mopar Service people out there to verify the
> output level?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf Of
> Jason
> Jennings
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 8:01 AM
> To: 'dakota-truck@buffnet.net'
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
> The top end from Mopar is supposed to be amped already.... Or
> at least
> have a nicer built in stereo amp.... Either way someone is more
> than
> willing to shoot me if I ever replace my factor system....
> hahahahahahahaha..... It was one of the major selling points of
> the
> car.... I can blast my beach boys and annoy all of the local
> bass
> heads, hahahahaha.... I have already caught the attention of
> several
> trying to figure me out. Number one sell point, the Solar
> Yellow it is
> painted, hehehehe....
> Jason
> 1/25/99 10:03 AM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Guzinski [SMTP:m.gski@CWIX.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 10:43 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
> Alpine makes one I think. The factory Infinity is pretty
> good,
> but it
> doesn't have line level outputs for an amp, I am thinking
> about
> running my
> factory Infinity and putting on a speaker to line level
> converter if I can
> find on that doesn't add too much distortion.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf
> Of
> bnich@bellatlantic.net
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 8:27 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: Re: DML: RE: Pioneer (MIKE)
> Michael Guzinski wrote:
> >
> > The 45 has 17wX4rms (35x4max) the 46 has 22wX4rms
> (45x4max)
> > the 45 has one set of pre-amp outs, the 46 has two sets
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf
> Of
> > bnich@bellatlantic.net
> > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 7:26 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > Subject: DML: Pioneer Question
> >
> > Anyone know the difference between the DEH45 and DEH46?
> My
> daughter just
> > bought the 45 for her Neon. Bob Nichols
> Thanks for the info Mike. Not ready for an amp as of yet, I
> was
> just
> wondering how much you wanted for it. I have to pick up the
> DEH
> 86 1st,
> but gota finish my grill first. You know of anything thats
> as
> good as
> the 86 but can play tapes and CD's? Bob Nichols
>
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