Re: RE: Winch bumper

From: Bernd D. Ratsch (bernd@texas.net)
Date: Fri May 14 1999 - 11:42:40 EDT


Approach angle isn't that much of a problem since you're using the tires to
get over the obstacles...not the bumper or winch. The Superwinch looks
like it's in the same position as the "Hide-A-Winch" bumpers...again...not
a problem with approach angles.

At 08:09 AM 05/14/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Check out Superwinch's model that gives you 9000 lbs
>capacity on the front--note that it says the rear is
>limited by your hitch load capacity. Anyway, here it is:
>http://www.superwinch.com/smount.htm
>Still, approach angle is an issue. I think that ideally
>I'd like to have a custom bumper on the front and in the
>rear, both with dual reciever mounts, with the front one
>placing the winch higher. I'm thinking a tubular, baja
>look. Anybody do custom tube bending for cheap? I can
>dream can't I.
>
>JY
>
>--- Jason Bleazard <jbleazard@home.com> wrote:
>> > >1. The receivers are only rated to 5000 lbs, so you
>> have to use dual
>> > >receivers if you want to use a larger winch. Then if
>> you want dual
>> > >receivers in the rear, you're probably looking at some
>> custom work (don't
>> > >remember ever seeing a dual receiver hitch).
>> >
>> > True...but you can use pulleys to compensate.
>>
>> That's true. Personally, I'd rather have an 8000 or 9000
>> lb winch and not
>> have to use the pulleys, and also not have any question
>> whether it's going
>> to pull me out. The recommended rating is 1.5 times the
>> GVWR. Plus, I
>> wanna be able to yank out any big ugly Foards that get
>> stuck in my way :-)
>>
>> > Now if you really get it stuck...let's say in the mud,
>> you STILL have to
>> > get out and attach the cable (or route it around a
>> tree). (Then again,
>> > there's always the tow-straps)
>>
>> Yep, that's true, but you have your hands free and you
>> don't have to carry
>> anything.
>>
>> > Uhhhh....90-100lbs??? They sure don't feel
>> > that heavy.
>>
>> Depends on the model, I suppose. The Warn XD9000i weighs
>> 84 lbs all by
>> itself without the mount.
>>
>> > Normally, you would leave it in the front and remove it
>> if you need it for
>> > the back. Since you normally don't need the winch on
>> the street anyway,
>> > you can remove the assembly and save some extra weight
>> on a daily basis.
>> > Most of the receiver mounts elevate the winch close to
>> bumper level. (If
>> > you're bumper is stuck somewhere, you've got a bigger
>> problem an dmight
>> > need a "Hi-jack" to get yourself semi-unstuck before
>> using the winch.)
>>
>> It might be at bumper height, but it's out in front a lot
>> further. My
>> statement that it kills the approach angle was based on
>> looking at pictures
>> like the one at
>> http://www.warn.com/html/mtingsys/multimt.htm. Looks to
>> me
>> like the winch is going to drag in cases where you might
>> have been clear
>> without it (think exiting a river bank or something).
>>
>> I'm not saying that the receiver mounts don't have some
>> great advantages. I
>> like the fact that you can remove it on the street, or
>> use it at the rear,
>> and I really like that you can move it from vehicle to
>> vehicle. IMHO, the
>> disadvantages outweigh this. I'd rather have a
>> permanently mounted 9000 lb
>> winch. If you like the receiver mount, let us know how
>> it works out!
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason Bleazard jbleazard@home.com Toronto, Ontario
>> current: '95 Dakota Sport white 4x4 Reg. Cab V6/3.9L/5spd
>> current: '98 Dakota Sport black 4x4 Club Cab V8/5.2L/Auto
>> RIP: '95 Dakota Sport black 4x2 Club Cab V6/3.9L/Auto
>>
>>
>
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