Re: RE: Re: Death of the Pushrod

From: Aaron (acolona@i-55.com)
Date: Tue Nov 02 1999 - 00:15:11 EST


well then, even out the weight and then start again. some of the fastest
production cars made are all pushrod engines. Could you imagine an OHC
viper. YUCK!!!! no torque!

----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Baltzer <Craig.Baltzer@anjura.com>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 9:59 PM
Subject: DML: RE: Re: Death of the Pushrod

> I'd like to add to the example. Which has more displacement:
>
> 1. Mustang - 4.6l
> 2. Camaro/Firebird - 5.7l
>
> Put the "pushrod" 5.0l (305) in the Camaro/Firebird and try again if you
> want a "real" comparison...
>
> Craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron [mailto:acolona@i-55.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 12:28 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: Re: Death of the Pushrod
>
>
> I nominate you for president. the only thing I'd like to add is an
example.
>
> 1. mustangs - ohc
> 2. camaro's/firebirds - pushrods
>
> Who is faster? Dodge built the 4.7 for gas mileage, efficiency, and to
> charge more for replacement parts.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Shaun.Hendricks@bergenbrunswig.com>
> To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 1999 1:33 PM
> Subject: DML: Death of the Pushrod
>
>
> > Ya know, I really hate to rain on your "The days of the pushrod
engine
> is
> > over" parade but it's simply not true. There was a reason the 318 & 360
> > engines lasted for so long: THEY PRODUCE POWER! A pushrod engine will
> always
> > out do an OHC engine for torque purposes. Horsepower isn't everything.
> > I believe it was a few weeks ago where someone posted up to the list
> that
> > they went to the track and a Cummins Turbo Diesel RAM wiped them all
out.
> > Talk about an archaic engine, an in-line six with pushrods and all the
> ancient
> > engine technology that diesels represent.
> > When you are racing, you want gobs of both HP and Torque. Never give
> up
> > one for the other and call it and "advancement", because it's not, it's
a
> > "compromise". Advancement is a gain in all categories, anything else is
> just
> > a 'change'.
> > The 4.7's represent a more 'efficient' engine. Lighter and quicker
to
> > respond, but they can't handle all the gizmos people like to tack onto
> them
> > like nitrous and such: they are aluminum engines with the weaknesses of
an
> > aluminum engine. Because the engine is already near it's peak
efficiency,
> > there's not much you can do to it to make it "better".
> > The 5.9 and 5.2 engines will always be able to out power the 4.7 in
> both HP
> > and Torque, but not until they are brought up to the efficiency level of
> the
> > 4.7 engine. That requires aftermarket goods. There is no substitute
for
> > cubic inches save and entire engine concept change... like oh, a
> turbine...
> > All car magazine's suck, no matter which one they are. They are
> puppets of
> > their reporters biases and of their advertisers. They always make
> compromises
> > since they can never compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges
> because
> > there's really too many differences in vehicles. If someone wants to
give
> MT
> > a fair comparison, take a supercharged or nitrous'd R/T to them and tell
> them
> > to whip out the Lightning and go for their tests then. Until then, I
> suggest
> > all you R/T owners should write them a nasty letter and tell them they
> suck
> > and their testing techniques are extremely unscientific and biased since
> they
> > don't even have a clue enough to compare proper engine types...
> >
> > Shaun H.
> >
>



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