Re: Re: DML and Patent violation problem

From: Bernd D. Ratsch (bernd@texas.net)
Date: Thu Aug 03 2000 - 16:58:52 EDT


I think this is what they're talking about:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/99may/050199trailsport.htm

Doesn't look like what Rob has designed.

- Bernd

----- Original Message -----
From: "TOM" <Thrush@primary.net>
To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 7:35 PM
Subject: DML: Re: DML and Patent violation problem

> so what they are saying is, they use s-10 parts in their traction bars?
> I'm thinking if you are not trying to sell an item, there wouldn't be any
> violation. Lets say i made a tonneau cover out of plywood and marine grade
> vinyl, would a tonneau company be violated? I don't think so.
> Everyone with homebuilt intakes look out, they may resemble K&N's, hehe.
>
> t0m
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon <jon@twistedbits.net>
> To: Dakota Mailing List <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Date: Thursday, August 03, 2000 1:32 PM
> Subject: DML: DML and Patent violation problem
>
>
> :
> :
> :
> : I thought I would post this here to see if there is anyone on the
> :list with any experience in this realm, so I can figure out what to
> :do. What do you folks think?
> :
> : The short story is:
> :
> : I got a message from this guy saying Rob Cobb's homemade traction
> :bars on the web site are in violation of their patent. I did a search
> :on www.uspto.gov but couldn't find their patent. I wrote back and
> :they said it was pending. (See the text included below for the full
> :correspondence.)
> :
> : The page in question is:
> :
> : http://dakota-truck.net/upgrades/TBARS/tbars.html
> :
> : I am not sure of the exact date, but I do know that it has been
> :on-line since March of 1997 at the latest. According to them,
> :Rob's traction bars are "an exact replica". If they are just getting
> :their patent now, do they have a case? Does anyone have any
> :suggestions?
> :
> : Thanks very much in advance!!
> :
> :
> : -Jon-
> :
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> : `------------------------------
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> :
> :--------------------------------------------
> :> > >Jon,
> :> > >We would like to notify you that the traction bars illustrated
> :> > > in the page that we have fowarded, are an exact replica of
> :> > >our traction bars. We would like to inform you that you and
> :> > >the author are infringing on our patent rights.
> :> > >Please remove this item from
> :> > >your page immediatly. This is just a friendly notice, as you
> :> > >were probably unaware of this. We consistantly check different
> :> > >pages to ensure that none of our exclusive products are being
> :> > > duplicated in any way.
> :> > >
> :> > >If you have any questions please e mail or call 909 825 2818.
> :> > >Thank you,
> :> > >Julio Monroy
> :> > >Trail Sport Unlimited, Inc.
> :> >
> :> > Julio,
> :> >
> :> > Thanks for writing. You are correct, I was unaware that there
were
> any
> :> > patent claims for that traction bar design. However, I have been
> unable to
> :> > find any patents filed by yourself or Trail Sport Unlimited. (I am
> :> > assuming it was filed under a different name.) Could you please
write
> back
> :> > to me with the patent number to assist me in locating it? Thanks
very
> much!
> :> >
> :>
> :> Jon,
> :> Thanks for your e mail. As of today, the patent is pending. It
will
> be
> :> issued any day and at that time our company plans on
> :> enforcing it to it's full extent. This means that both you and Rob
will
> be held
> :> liable for any damages. Just for verification do a search (you
probably
> already
> :> have) under traction bars or Trail Sport and you will see that this
> corporation
> :> owns the product Rob copied.
> :>
> :> Thank you for your time,
> :> Julio Monroy
> :> Trail Sport Unlimited, Inc.
> :
>
>



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