I had the same problem w/dropping a lifter. Lucky for me I was removing the oil
pan anyway. On the rams - even tho the FSM says that you have to unbolt the
engine from the motor mounts and raise it slightly to get the oil pan off, I
found this to NOT be the case. I not only removed mine without using a jack (on
the engine or truck) - but I also installed ARP main studs, a windage tray, new
HV oil pump, AND a larger oil pan & pump pickup. It was a tight fit but
w/patience it will come out. Removing the transmission lower cover was the
secret for me.
Latr,
Shane
ps - the stock oil pump pickup is so puny its scary!
Mark Kuzia wrote:
> Dropping the pan may work, even if you cant pull out the pan, you may be
> able to drop it down far enough to get your hand or a magnet in there.
>
> Mark Kuzia
> flyboy01@mediaone.net
> http://people.mw.mediaone.net/flyboy01/home.html
> 1995 Dakota 13.79 @ 102.45 mph
> ~360ci, 5-spd, 4.11 LS (8 3/4 [3.90 SG] coming soon)
> 1994 Dakota 15.36 @ 91.56 mph
> ~318ci, 5-spd, 3.90 LS (bone stock, no mods)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wisotzkey, Rich" <Rich.Wisotzkey@gd-wts.com>
> To: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:01 AM
> Subject: DML: RE: dropped a lifter into oil pan
>
> > John,
> > Unless your crossmember bolts in and can be removed, DON'T TRY to drop
> > you're oil pan. It won't come off the way the service manual tells you it
> > will. Trust me, I've been there. If your crossmember is welded in, you
> > have to pull the engine to remove the pan. I had everything removed from
> > the underside of the engine too. Exhaust, starter, steering assembly,
> stone
> > shield on the face of the transmission. Nothing helped.
> >
> > I've tried every way possible to get it out even with the assistance of a
> > FSM. Even spoke to the service techs down at the local dealerships. They
> > all told me how to take it out just like the FSM tells you. Yeah sure!
> > Well after I couldn't get the pan off, I took it in to them. Guess what?
> > They couldn't get it off either. Not without pulling the engine.
> >
> > I was lucky. I only needed to replace the oil pan gasket. They wound up
> > worming a new gasket up around the pan to get it into place. But if the
> pan
> > would need to come off for whatever reason, the engine has to come out.
> >
> > Try to reach it with a magnet or something.
> > Good-luck,
> > Rich - Ashburn, VA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pukeloser@aol.com [mailto:Pukeloser@aol.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 7:52 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > Subject: DML: dropped a lifter into oil pan
> >
> >
> > Hey Everyone,
> >
> > I'm doing this cam project and I dropped a lifter into the oil pan, it
> was
> > the lifter on the drivers side closest to the firewall. It was sticking
> and
> > wouldn't push up so I pushed it down and tried to catch it but it slipped
> > out
> > of my fingers (must have been covered in oil or something heh eh)
> >
> > Anyway does anyone know if I can drop the oil pan far enough to reach in
> > and get it or do I have to remove it? Because (according to the FSM) I
> have
> > to unbolt the motor mounts and jack up the motor to remove the pan
> > completely
> > and I don't want to have to do that. My friend Becca is going to help me
> on
> > monday and she has much narrower arms than I do (but much better breasts
> and
> >
> > butt, sorry if that offends anyone but it is a compliment after all).
> >
> > John S
> >
> > 95 cc 318 auto, transgo shift kit, HE stage II TB and intake, HE 1418 cam,
> > 1.6 Roller rockers, MSD digi6+, MSD HVC coil & 8.5 wires, Hp cap + rotor,
> MP
> >
> > PCM, DT headers, Gibson exhaust (3" from headers back, no cat), 180 stat,
> > autolite 3923's, progear DR timing chain, 24# FMS injectors, auburn LSD,
> > 4.10
> > gears, superior axles, K&N X-stream filter system, MP valve covers
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