Bob,
Thanks for the detailed explanation, I've been trying a few things to
resolve that problem. So far It's been working! I zip locked the kickdown cable
where it meets the arm that attaches to the throttle body. This way it force
feed the cable back into the line telling the tranny that I have lifted off the
throttle, make nice shift while normal driving an doesn't build up pressure in
the tranny. Second I added a 1/4 spacer using a metal square piece and using
double back tape to hold it down where the throttle body lever stops the blades
from opening past vertical position. The spacer seems enough to keep enough
slack in the cable to prevent WOT problem with not shifting. This spacer did not
effect any performance, the blades still open 99% and the tps has enough play or
slack to adjust it and still keeping it thinking it's at WOT.
I also installed a M1 intake this weekend! It took me from 4AM to 11:30AM
without any breaks! I haven't done anything like this in 6 years! I'm only 25,
and head install was my last big project. Anyway, it' went well. BTW! This
engine only had 13K miles and it was starting to get a belly pan gasket leak! My
God this is a brand new truck. 700-2900rpm seems the same or a little stronger,
2950-3100rpm seem weaker, 3150-3250 seems normal, 3300-red line seems stronger.
Bob Tom <tigers@bserv.com> on 01/26/2002 10:06:57 AM
Please respond to dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
To: dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
cc: (bcc: Anthony Gonatas/KS/ARS/US/AON)
Subject: Re: DML: 46RE Question
At 08:19 AM 1/25/02 -0600, you wrote:
>I think I might have a faulty governor pressure solenoid in my 46RE.
>It sometimes refuses to shift from 1st to 2nd doing a WOT run. Can
>anyone tell me how much this part cost and how hard it would be
>to replace it? Any transmission experts out there?
I started to have this type of problem shortly after I had the Transgo
Shift kit installed. Depending on where I had adjusted the TV cable,
I would have a 1-2 or a 2-3 shift problem under WOT from a standing
start in my 44RE. My shifts are manual in order to keep the rpms
in my power curve. Manual WOT shifts from a moving start or
part throttle shifts (standing or moving starts) are aok.
If you search the archives (especially in '98 and '99), you'll come
this problem from other R/T owners as well. An IndyRam which
runs at my local track had them as well.
In 2000, I came across a couple of articles that said the governor
pressure solenoid or sensor or both were known to cause such
a problem. Dodge replaced both parts in '99 (I believe) and they
are now currently used in these (42/44/46RE) trannies.
I replaced solenoid and sensor in 2000 but the problem remained.
The solenoid is around $150CDN. Replacement requires removing
the tranny pan, tranny filter, disengaging wire connectors from the
solenoid (or sensor if replacing both), removing screws holding the
solenoid retainer to the governor body, separating solenoid retainer
from governor and pulling solenoid from the governor. Getting to the
sensor requires a few more steps after this.
I located and wrote one of the R/T owners (no longer on the list)
who had this problem (I believe he was a Dodge mechanic in
a southern state). He said that he had found no solution.
He races with the TV cable detached and shifts manually ...
a poor man's, manual valve body? I'm not a tranny expert
so I haven't tried this as I don't know if this would cause any
damage or not.
What I did was to install a tranny cooler and to use
synthetic tranny fluid. I discovered half through last year's
racing season that I could leave the line at WOT with the shift lever
in 2nd, lift the pedal momentarily about 1/4" at about 5400 which
gets me the 1-2 shift immediately, and get back down on the pedal.
I can then do the 2-3 shift manually at any rpm (for me, around 5500-
5600 rpm).
I have some ideas about possible causes but would not know
if they are the real cause without expensive trial and error fixes.
HTH.
Bob Tom Burlington, Ont., Canada
'97 CC Dakota, 5.2L, 4x2, 44RE, 3.92SG, ~4,075 lb (racing weight)
RW: 231.2 hp 340.0 torque PB: 14.313 95.05 mph
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