Brian,
Is this the same Jet that was at Oshkosh in 96 or 97?
I think $837,000 is a real steal. I just have to come up with the other
$829,000.
Thanks,
Mark Kuzia
Mark's Diecast Inc.
flyboy01@comcast.net
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/flyboy01/95daksale
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Gonzales" <gonzales@thuntek.net>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: DML: Re: A little off topic: Airplane buffs/Arizone people?
>
> Mark,
> As a member of Eclipse Aviation's flight test team, I can tell you this
> isn't exactly true.
>
> As you might imagine, nowadays we use modern sensors to detect aileron,
> elevator and rudder positions (as well as hundreds of other parameters).
> A few reasons for the chase plane is so that data can be telemetered and
> recorded on the test plane, chase plane and at a base station. It's
> really convenient to record data on the chase when running remote tests.
>
> The chase vehicle also allows the FT team to travel with the test and of
> course for photography. You often see flight testing near Yuma, Arizona
> because it's very hot there and it's experimental aircraft friendly.
> Leadville Colorado and Reno Nevada are also popular destinations for
> high altitude tests.
>
> When our 2nd aircraft is tested, we'll telemeter ~750 channels of data
> to the base, the data will be sent to workstations via the network (and
> internet) so structural engineers will be able to analyze data as it
> occurs. Tests will be modified on the spot to take advantage of the
> fresh data.
>
> Speaking of our ship, we are rolling out 'Aircraft 100' this Saturday in
> Albuquerque to a crowd of nearly 2000. We'll achieve First Flight later
> this month, and hope to certify in early 2004. If everything works out
> as planned, I'll cash in my stock options and retire rich! :)
>
> Check us out at www.eclipseaviation.com (unfortunately, the 'progress'
> page, is woefully behind - we're almost flightworthy)...
>
> Oh, if you have $837,000 laying around (less than 1/4 of what other
> business jets cost), consider buying of of these gems. :)
>
> Back to your regularly scheduled program.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 07:33, Mark Kuzia wrote:
> >
> > I have a simpler, less covert answer. It is probably just a flight test.
> > When new aircraft are tested, they always have one or two aircraft
flying
> > inspection to make sure control surfaces are working properly, landing
gear
> > are retracting, etc. There are always new aircraft being tested such as
> > cargo or ECM aircraft. Sometimes the obvious is the most likely.
> >
> > As for the Groom Lake Express, they are 737's, and as someone else
stated,
> > they do not have an escort. I also heard that the "Area 51" was
relocated to
> > Colorado/Utah area. But I also heard that they still use Groom Lake for
some
> > aircraft and secret testing.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark Kuzia
> > Mark's Diecast Inc.
> > flyboy01@comcast.net
> > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/flyboy01/95daksale
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William H. Hiatt III" <william@hiatt.net>
> > To: <DAKOTA-TRUCK@dakota-truck.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:02 PM
> > Subject: DML: A little off topic: Airplane buffs/Arizone people?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I'm out here in Lake Havasu with the girlfriend and her family doing
some
> > > skiing. Every now and then (5-6 times a day) I see a trail from a jet.
Pop
> > > on the binoculars, it's a big white plane, I can't see any markings,
and
> > it
> > > has 4 jet engines. I've noticed that there's another smaller plane
always
> > by
> > > the large plane (within 1 or 1/2 mile), with no jet stream visible.
Does
> > > anyone know what those are? Military aircraft?
> > >
> > > On the plus side, the dak ran great on the way out to Havasu, and it
was a
> > > fun drive to make in the Dakota. (I usually drive my dad's Denali
towing a
> > > couple Seadoos when I come with my family)
> > >
> > > william
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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