Re: RE: RE: ATF +3

From: Gary Hedlin (ghedlin@theramp.net)
Date: Wed Aug 14 2002 - 20:40:56 EDT


Ummm..... I just changed mine using ATF+3. With a trans with 140,000 miles
on it, should I go witth +4 next time I change it?

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""Bernd D. Ratsch"" <bernd@texas.net> wrote in message
news:000501c243a3$921a1bb0$090aa8c0@homenet.com...
>
>
> TSB#: 21-006-01
>
> NOTE :THIS BULLETIN APPLIES TO ALL VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH CHRYSLER
> AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS EXCEPT 1999 AND EARLIER MINIVANS.
>
> DISCUSSION:
> A new transmission fluid (ATF+4(R) - Type 9602) has been developed and
> is being used as factory fill for all vehicles with Chrysler automatic
> transmissions. Until now, vehicles originally filled with ATF+2 or ATF+3
> were to be serviced with ATF+3. Effective immediately, it is recommended
> that all vehicles with Chrysler automatic transmissions except for 1999
> and earlier minivans be serviced with ATF+4(R). ATF+3 should continue to
> be used for 1999 and earlier minivans because of the potential for
> torque converter shudder during break in. For all other applications the
> ATF+4(R) fluid offers significant benefits as outlined below.
>
> NOTE :ATF+4(R) MUST ALWAYS BE USED IN VEHICLES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY
> FILLED WITH ATF+4(R).
>
> NOTE :SERVICE INTERVALS DO NOT CHANGE. THE SERVICE INTERVAL CURRENTLY IN
> EFFECT FOR A GIVEN VEHICLE SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE FOLLOWED.
>
> NOTE :ATF+4(R) IS COMPATIBLE WITH ATF+3 AND CAN BE USED TO TOP OFF
> VEHICLES THAT CURRENTLY HAVE ATF+2 OR ATF+3. DO NOT USE ATF+2 OR ATF+3
> TO TOP OFF VEHICLES THAT HAVE ATF+4(R) FLUID.
>
> BENEFITS
> ^ Better anti-wear properties
> ^ Improved rust/corrosion prevention
> ^ Controls oxidation
> ^ Eliminates deposits
> ^ Controls friction
> ^ Retains anti-foaming properties
> ^ Superior properties for low temperature operation
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net] On Behalf Of Al & Jeanna
> Figols
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:28 AM
> To: Dakota list
> Subject: DML: RE: ATF +3
>
>
> I just went through all of this just recently with my multispeed
> (45rfe). I'm assuming your's is a '00, because in '01 they went to
> ATF+4. According to the Dodge shops I spoke to, ATF+3 is still the
> fluid to use if your tranny originally calls for it and all you're doing
> is changeing the filters(there's 2 filters in the 45rfe) and approx 6
> quarts of fluid that comes out with them. ATF+4 is a synthetic fluid
> that is used in most Chrysler trannys from '01 and up. The idea is to
> lower tranny temp and extend service intervals. If your tranny calls
> for ATF+4, then stick with that. You can use ATF+4 in a tranny that
> calls for ATF+3, but unless you're getting the full flush service, where
> they completely flush all of the approx. 14 quarts of fluid from the
> tranny and converter, then you're wasting your money and will get no
> added benefit. I finally just changed my fluid and filters on my '00
> Quad Cab with 38K miles just the other day. I tow a car trailer with it
> alot and figured it would look pretty dirty. You know, the tranny and
> fluid were absolutlely clean!! Very minimal filings on the magnet. I
> guess there's an advantage to not having bands in the transmission. Al
>
>
>



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